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There is no reason to get 8350, when any 83xx can overclock to 4.5Ghz. I have 8320 and have passed IBT AVX at 4.5Ghz. I have 8300 and have brought it to 4Ghz at only 1.26v (that's less than stock voltage for 8350), so most likely it can go to 4.5Ghz easily.

Agreed; for the money I too say getting an 8350 vs one of the lower models is really spending more than you'd need to.
Not too long ago I got myself a 8370 and it turns out to be a poor clocker, my 8320 is waaaay more friendly about going up than it is.

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In the US, i read people often finding 8300 for 90$. When FX goes EOL in a few months, i expect something like this: 4300: 40$, 6300: 60$, 8320E: 80$. And i mean unused chips.

I bought 2 of these recently, the last was indeed bought 2 weeks ago for about $110 US shipped but when I checked the egg and was browsing just yesterday I saw that the prices had jumped up almost half-again that much!
I guess this is the beginning of the phasing out of this gen and I say that because these fluctuations in price always begin before these chips start disappearing for good - Happened with Socket 939 and saw it with the Phenom II line (Don't know about AM2/AM2+, I was never interested in those sockets to pay attention biggrin.gif).

However if FX chip prices drop I'll be all over that if possible and I do have a chip model or two I'd like to get yet.

My 8370 is too low leakage to be a great clocker, but it's the best undervolter I have. What's odd is the 9370 and 8370e are the best overclocking chips I have, which makes it really hard to figure out just how they bin the chips. Must simply have to be able to fit an SKU they need and they ignore the capabilities beyond that.
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Agreed; for the money I too say getting an 8350 vs one of the lower models is really spending more than you'd need to.
Not too long ago I got myself a 8370 and it turns out to be a poor clocker, my 8320 is waaaay more friendly about going up than it is.
I bought 2 of these recently, the last was indeed bought 2 weeks ago for about $110 US shipped but when I checked the egg and was browsing just yesterday I saw that the prices had jumped up almost half-again that much!
I guess this is the beginning of the phasing out of this gen and I say that because these fluctuations in price always begin before these chips start disappearing for good - Happened with Socket 939 and saw it with the Phenom II line (Don't know about AM2/AM2+, I was never interested in those sockets to pay attention biggrin.gif).

However if FX chip prices drop I'll be all over that if possible and I do have a chip model or two I'd like to get yet.

Oh, prices will drop, be certain of that. A few months after AM3 went EOL, i grabbed 3 Athlon X2 II 2.8-3.4Ghz for 28-32 euros (VAT included!) and an Athlon x4 640 for 60 euros. I think i am being conservative with the prices i posted as expected. If you don't have a pressing need, buying a bit after official EOL date, is the BEST thing you can do. You get the best price, the best RAM, the best CPU bins, the best motherboards.

I 've bought 3 FX CPUs and i have buyer's regret for the first one (6300), cause it's a power pig. I bought 8 AM3+ motherboards and i have buyer's regret for 7 of them for one reason or another. I bought 48GB RAM in sticks of 4GB and i have buyer's regret for all of them, cause i bought 1600Mhz and 4GB sticks.

If i had waited to buy NOW, i would have gotten only low leaking 8XXX, probably a mix of Biostar TA970 Plus and some other motherboard with USB 3.1 and 1866 Mhz RAM in 8GB sticks . I don't complain, cause i got good bang for buck, but it wasn't the optimal thing. Moral of the story, assuming i will resist temptation, my next upgrade will be when Zen+ goes EOL.


In the meantime, i may grab yet another 83xx too, if i see a price i can't refuse. I always end up with more CPUs than i can use, but i am a sucker for good bargains and the only time you get good bargains here, is when they go EOL ( i don't touch used parts). This way i will put an 83xx on my secondary rig (while keeping another 83xx for spare), move the 6300 to my tertiary rig and so on and at the end either my brother or a friend of mine will get a free upgrade too.

$110 is very good price (i bought the 8300 at 125 euros and i consider that a very good price here), but in USA, from time to time you get 8300 at 90$, which is too good to pass on. I am positive that FX prices will drop sharply because Zen is going to be a hefty upgrade, so you will have shops with stock of unsold FX + a flood of used FX hitting ebay/craigs list , which on its turn with drive shop's prices down too. I mean, there was a definitive price drop from AM3 going EOL , while Bulldozer wasn't much of an improvement. Imagine what will happen now.
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I keep my eyes open for fantastic deals.


that is how I jsut got 32gb of ddr3 2133 CL11 for 40 plus shipping on ebay

else i would still be running ripjawz 16gb kit of 1600 in my main rig
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Oh, prices will drop, be certain of that. A few months after AM3 went EOL, i grabbed 3 Athlon X2 II 2.8-3.4Ghz for 28-32 euros (VAT included!) and an Athlon x4 640 for 60 euros. I think i am being conservative with the prices i posted as expected. If you don't have a pressing need, buying a bit after official EOL date, is the BEST thing you can do. You get the best price, the best RAM, the best CPU bins, the best motherboards.

That's always when to look for bargains, especially with AMD. Here in the USA, Newegg blew out Phenom II 965's at $84.99 right after they went EOL. Every one I ever saw of heard of would overclock to 4 GHz, and a lot of them would go all the way to 4.2.

I still fondly remember a Newegg blowout sale on the "Palomino" core Athlon XP at Newegg when the new core revision came out. They marked them all at 1600+ (1.4 GHz), but they would all overclock way above that. I got mine to 1.81 GHz, and a lot of people were doing even better with theirs. These things were $42.99 a pop and beating the crap out of Intel chips costing hundreds of dollars. I did a few more builds around those until everyone caught on and the supply dried up. Fortunately, the $55 Duron 1600's that came out about a year later were even better, if you happened to have a conductive pen lying around.

When Zen drops, people are going to score new 8-core Visheras that hit 4.5 GHz for $75, and you might see X4 845 and 880K for half of that.
     
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The spikes in price I was seeing back then was probrably due to a run/scramble to get one of the higher models before they werer all gone forever and yes I expect with certain models that will happen. Even if Zen is already out if retailers see a given model going out the door like mad prices will be the same to get one until they are all gone.

However you are also right, prices should drop after Zen is out and after it's known whether it's any good or not.......... And they should be good.
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If lower end zen could be priced at level of 150-175E then fx 4m prices will probably remain the same in first month or two. But after that they will plummet to a 85-95E for higher level fx
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