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Originally Posted by iTurn View Post

No offense, but did you read the article or any other press release on what you're speaking on?

He was surprised they announced it... it being 1.5 years away.

PS360 generation was an oddity, Sony absolutely thumps every one the other generations.

In the PS4 documents it states the specs aren't final and they're considering upgrades at a more premium price.

Sony started the buy once play anywhere feature (admittedly MS brought in the evolution of allowing you to play on PC), this is how a lot of the PS4/Vita/PSP games work.

To others: Ps4 has native KB/M support it's up to the devs to implement its use.

Of course I read it and I am stating that he should be surprised for different reasons. Seems like you fail to see the over arching theme in M$ strategy which is no surprise because it's totally escaping Sony as well biggrin.gif

See you fall into the same trap lmao sales of consoles in one thing...but setting up a cosmic shift in the way business is conducted is something I see M$ doing with their new system and seamless implementation of W10 in Xbox and PC is something Sony will never be able to match. If you still don't get it it's fine maybe these types of discussions aren't meant for you lol which is fine thumb.gif

Sorry bud but Sony don't have enough time to RnD something to match the raw power M$ are going to have with Project Scorpio it's just something Sony apologists will have to accept. Like I said the one generation where Sony is absolutely murdering M$ when it comes to console sales is the shortest one.

I play with a KB/M and I play on Xbox One wink.gif

Time will prove everything I said correct because it's plainly obvious what M$ is doing and their business strategy going forward. Everything backwards compatible, under the same architecture so it scales graphics similar to a PC but made for consoles lol so if you buy a game it can run on any M$ product whether it be Xbox One, Xbox One S, Project Scorpio, PC, and beyond. They will be testing that "new business strategy" with their "Play Anywhere" endeavor. This isn't rocket science.

I'm praying for Sony to figure something out because M$ having a monopoly in the console market due to an overwhelming feature list compared to what Sony will have is not something that is healthy for consumers.

I don't get how announcing a console that's over a year from being released is a surprise to Sony execs...M$ knows that Sony can't change their specs design wise drastically without a massive delay. M$ was basically flexing their muscles at E3 this year knowing full well Sony can't really respond and won't respond when it comes time to compare these two "competing" consoles next year.
post #52 of 58
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Originally Posted by MaxFTW View Post

Hows about make a PS app for PC Sony? You know like steam or that? Sure this can be a burden but for them who want to play the game they want can buy it.

Am I detecting sarcasm? You already can stream PS4 to PC via official software from Sony.
post #53 of 58
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Originally Posted by Tempest2000 View Post

Am I detecting sarcasm? You already can stream PS4 to PC via official software from Sony.

Streaming a game to PC is not quite having W10 OS on both Xbox and PC and sharing certain features that will be expanding with every W10 update. Naively supporting big titles on PC from M$ is huge too since some people can detect a delay when streaming that goes for both Xbox and Sony's streaming solution.

But make no mistake about it M$ wants you to game wherever it doesn't matter if it's on Xbox or PC. Sony on the other hand has been quoted as saying the only reason NEO is being created is to prevent their customers from making the switch to PC.

I don't really know how you can argue that Sony is on equal or better footing when it comes to the PC space compared to M$. I see a clear edge for M$ in the long term.
post #54 of 58
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Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post

Streaming a game to PC is not quite having W10 OS on both Xbox and PC and sharing certain features that will be expanding with every W10 update. Naively supporting big titles on PC from M$ is huge too since some people can detect a delay when streaming that goes for both Xbox and Sony's streaming solution.

But make no mistake about it M$ wants you to game wherever it doesn't matter if it's on Xbox or PC. Sony on the other hand has been quoted as saying the only reason NEO is being created is to prevent their customers from making the switch to PC.

I don't really know how you can argue that Sony is on equal or better footing when it comes to the PC space compared to M$. I see a clear edge for M$ in the long term.

I didn't argue any of that, nor do I have a problem with either company's approach to competition and "play anywhere," so I'm not really sure why you quoted me. Regardless, you seem to not understand that Sony and MS are direct competitors in the gaming industry, so why would you expect Sony to fully support Microsoft? Does Nvidia write drivers for AMD cards?

PS: Sony publishes PC games
post #55 of 58
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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post

Yes you can. If antilaiasing is of any use to you whatsoever then improved resolution will make a difference. 1080p @24" 2-3ft and 1080p 40-50" at 5-10 feet is extremely flawed if you have good eyesight or appropriate vision correction.

No you can't.


...
All this 4k talk is a joke. It only matters for VR. Almost everyone would prefer better colors, hdr, and higher hertz before going above 1080p on tv's.


I've debunked that graph a dozen times on this forum.

In a purely technical sense those specs are not incorrect, it's just extremely limited in application. That detail limit only applies to a consistent repeating pattern, your ability to detect Vernier Resolution is at least 10x more sensitive.


Here, try the Jaggie Test and see for yourself.

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Originally Posted by ILoveHighDPI View Post

I give you, jaggies 6JqcxAJs.jpg (click on the image and view at full size).
Now grab a tape measurer and measure the distance from your monitor that the jaggies blur out, then divide that number by the distance you normally sit from your screen. Then calculate your screen density with this caculator, and multiply your screen DPI (PPI) by the amount that you need to divide the jaggie blurring distance to get back to your normal sitting position.
And there you go, you have your ideal screen density.

(I should maybe add "make sure you view the image in a program that does not apply anti-aliasing.")
Edited by ILoveHighDPI - 6/17/16 at 8:56am
post #56 of 58
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Originally Posted by zealord View Post

For me graphics are important, but much more important, and that is why I love PC gaming, are :

- Being able to play most games with Mouse & Keyboard. I hate playing FPS or TPS with controller. Aiming with a controller sucks.
- Being able to customize certain things : Field of View, Depth of Field, Motion Blur, Chromatic Aberration, Vignette and many more.
- I can adjust settings to either get more fps or have better visuals.
- FreeSync/G-Sync. I don't have it yet, but I don't know if consoles would support FreeSync with the new Polaris based architecture. I hope they do.
- PC gaming has so many games and you keep them for life.


A PS4K or XboxScorpio would only need the following to make me consider switching completely :

- Native M&KB support
- 30fps or 60fps option
- Post-Process graphics option for FoV,Dof,MB,CA to turn on/off. FoV is not even that important. It's more important for PC games where you sit close.


Sony could release one of those mouse and keyboard combos that you put on your lap. That'd be sweet

You lost the plot- the whole point of consoles is to relax sit back on the couch or bed and play with the controller.
If they put a mouse an keyboard all that will be gone.
post #57 of 58
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Originally Posted by MuscleBound View Post

You lost the plot- the whole point of consoles is to relax sit back on the couch or bed and play with the controller.
If they put a mouse an keyboard all that will be gone.

Unless, MS and Sony are trying to be the next "more viable" steam machines too.
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post #58 of 58
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Originally Posted by zealord View Post

lol who are you?

Some console games do already offer those options. The Last of Us Remastered. Uncharted Collection. The Division.

I have played on consoles all my life. You are not to tell me where I belong.

You can still "grasp" a controller and game on the couch.
Yeah ,this guy obviously doesn't know anything about you ,Zealord! I enjoy your posts on console news and game releases.
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