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1500mhz gtx 980ti's anyone?mad.gif
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Meh nothing substantial clever on them
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Originally Posted by jmcosta View Post

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because one step boost will make any difference

Here is a tip to help you avoid committing logical fallacies of this type in the future.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring


The issue isn't whether this will make any difference. That argument is similar to the "well if you don't have anything to hide..." when discussing government surveillance. The issue in this case is that MSI and ASUS sent review samples with higher clocks to reviewers. I hope you take a second to review the link above and reconsider your position and usage of logical fallacies when forming arguments.
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Meh.

Maybe it is a bit misleading, but if you are buying the card with intentions of running it in OC mode, you are probably going to follow the steps provided to get it into OC mode, right? Sure, the reviewers are getting a card that defaults to be faster than what the consumer will get, but the consumer CAN get it there by following instructions. It's like auto companies claiming a car gets 40MPG when in reality you have to put a brick behind the gas pedal to maintain that average. Still possible though.

I completely understand cherry picking products for reviewers. I would do the same thing. Not so the reviews claim better than the actual product, but so the review isn't worse than the actual product. As a manufacturer, the last thing you want is to randomly pick a product off the shelf, accidentally giving the reviewer a bad product to review. That could mean no sales. So you check to make sure it is good, or even better than the average before sending it out.

I can't imagine MSI testing one of these and saying, "No, don't send this one, it's 10% faster than the rest." rolleyes.gif
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I can't decide if this is more or less deceptive then the usual business of choosing the best binned cards to reviewers. On one hand they weren't shipped the card in its default retail condition but on the other hand its a setting any consumer can turn on unlike cherry picked chip.

Either way I don't like it and kudos on techpowerup for being upfront about it.
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Originally Posted by ryan92084 View Post

I can't decide if this is more or less deceptive then the usual business of choosing the best binned cards to reviewers. On one hand they weren't shipped the card in its default retail condition but on the other hand its a setting any consumer can turn on unlike cherry picked chip.

Either way I don't like it and kudos on techpowerup for being upfront about it.
Less, far less. Like you said yourself, it's a setting the user CAN enable, as opposed to the higher binned chip being unattainable in most cases. Also, given the fact that the impact on performance is so little, I'm not too surprised they did it that way.
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Meh.

I completely understand cherry picking products for reviewers. I would do the same thing. Not so the reviews claim better than the actual product, but so the review isn't worse than the actual product. As a manufacturer, the last thing you want is to randomly pick a product off the shelf, accidentally giving the reviewer a bad product to review. That could mean no sales. So you check to make sure it is good, or even better than the average before sending it out.

I can't imagine MSI testing one of these and saying, "No, don't send this one, it's 10% faster than the rest." rolleyes.gif

I can understand that happening to ONE reviewer, but not all of them. That's the beauty of the internet, if one reviewer got a dud, it'd be relatively easy to see that.

Though, I realize that some people only look at one review site. So I see your point.
post #18 of 100
Unbelievable! They should do it like Nvidia did it, just pick one random from a pallet and send that to reviewers!
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post #19 of 100
uh


what the point of that thread


the ref benchmark show stock performance.


The msi card and asus we want the higher factory clock benchmark anyways?


Who would downclock a 7970 ghz edition? That would be dumb
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post #20 of 100
They probably didn't want to risk having the reviewers forget to turn on the best profile, or something.

Semi-deceptive practice, but understandable considering the huge implications of a review that doesn't show your product at it's highest and finest.

Kudos to Techpowerup. If this weighed on their conscience, that shows a high sense of journalistic integrity.
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