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Originally Posted by Dargonplay View Post

What's going on?

I are becoming edumacated biggrin.gif
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sup?

Oh, the irony... rolleyes.gif
Edited by Slomo4shO - 6/16/16 at 9:52pm
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I don't really see an issue here. They provide the software with the card that allows the user to set the oc profile...
Anyone who doesn't understand that they need to install a simple piece of software to OC their card a little further will most likely not notice the difference in performance from the benchmark reviews and the card they own, therefor there is no problem.
The reviewers could also install this software and test the various profiles. To me it sounds like someone trying to create news out of nothing.
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Originally Posted by Horsemama1956 View Post

Why would someone buy a similarly priced card that reviews slower? Even if it's like 3 frames, it's still going to influence someone. A higher power limit can also let the card boost higher when the retail card would be limited a touch more.

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It makes a huge difference, reviewers are supposed to review the product that you, the consumer, are planning on getting. Or you would have to review it purely on aestetics as benchmarks will not be indicative on the actual performance of the product.

like i said in the last post, this has been happening for years in both nvidia or amd and there's nothing we can do about it

about the performance it doesn't change anything at least in this case (it did in previous families due to fixed clock but still was a tiny decrease..) because with the profiles they offer and the way boost works it will run at avg 1900mhz with the clock min 1700mhz to a max of 2ghz, doesn't matter if you add 10 or 20mhz the clock will fluctuate in those levels, unless if you touch the power limit...
Edited by jmcosta - 6/17/16 at 12:49am
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this is really trivial compared to some of discrepancies that happened in the past. for example when i read GTX780 reviews they all boasted how great Samsung vram overlocks, but my retail card come with horrible elpida memory which didn't overclock at all. at least in this case you can get same or better core clock by installing OC software.
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I prefer women with no makeup. wink.gif
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OFFICIAL STATEMENT

ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 graphics cards come with exclusive GPU Tweak II software, that provides silent, gaming, and OC modes allowing users to select a performance profile that suits their requirements. Users can apply these modes easily from within GPU Tweak II.

The press samples for the ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 OC and ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1070 OC cards are set to “OC Mode” by default. To save media time and effort, OC mode is enabled by default as we are well aware our graphics cards will be reviewed primarily on maximum performance. And when in OC mode, we can showcase both the maximum performance and the effectiveness of our cooling solution.

Retail products are in “Gaming Mode” by default, which allows gamers to experience the optimal balance between performance and silent operation. We encourage end-users to try GPU Tweak II and adjust between the available modes, to find the best mode according to personal needs or preferences.

For both the press samples and retail cards, all these modes can be selected through the GPU Tweak II software. There are no differences between the samples we sent out to media and the retail channels in terms of hardware and performance.


Sincerely,
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
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To save media time and effort, OC mode is enabled by default as we are well aware our graphics cards will be reviewed primarily on maximum performance. And when in OC mode, we can showcase both the maximum performance and the effectiveness of our cooling solution.

Translation: We wanted to make sure all the reviewers showed that our cards were 0.5% faster than the competition, and hence better.

I simply can't rolleyes.gif hard enough at this pathetic explanation.
post #68 of 100
That MSI Gaming software is atrocious. Really the definition of useless bloatware, it installs like 5 junk services on your system. Sensors, dragon eye and whatnot. Anyway I'm not too OCD about not using it, I don't lose any performance. I would like to flash that review VBIOS with higher clocks though.
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Translation: We wanted to make sure all the reviewers showed that our cards were 0.5% faster than the competition, and hence better.

I simply can't rolleyes.gif hard enough at this pathetic explanation.


Really? I guess it's a matter of perspective, you want it to be a pathetic explanation so it is a pathetic explanation. I think it is a good bit of truth with a dash of political correctness by not saying that they don't trust reviewers to go through the trouble of testing all the modes.
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And why should they? A proper review means you unbox the card, plug it into the test bench, install drivers, then benchmark away with it. I mean that's what 90% of the population does right?
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The press samples for the ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 OC and ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1070 OC cards are set to “OC Mode” by default. To save media time and effort, OC mode is enabled by default as we are well aware our graphics cards will be reviewed primarily on maximum performance. And when in OC mode, we can showcase both the maximum performance and the effectiveness of our cooling solution.

Retail products are in “Gaming Mode” by default, which allows gamers to experience the optimal balance between performance and silent operation. We encourage end-users to try GPU Tweak II and adjust between the available modes, to find the best mode according to personal needs or preferences.

The fact that we're talking about a <50 MHz difference only serves to exacerbate this IMO, because we're talking about <1% performance difference, yet somehow that was important enough to Asus and MSi that they felt the need to do something like this.
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