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Well, as i said, regarding the ssd, will buy a new and bigger one, but planningon sorting the new cpu/ or a proper cooler first.
Not quite into a air cooler tough, was more inclined to a AIO wc cooler, altough read that the top air ones could match them in performance, altough aesthetically the closed loop ones do look better tongue.gif.
Regarding shops, here are some good ones here in Portugal:

Www.moddingworld.pt/ is a bit pricey but as far as portuguese shops go, they have a huge variety of hardware.

Www.chiptec.pt is my usual to go place, mainly cause they have a shop near my workplace and they have good prices usually.
Edited by Neocoolzero - 6/17/16 at 1:19am
post #12 of 15
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Well, as i said, regarding the ssd, will buy a new and bigger one, but planningon sorting the new cpu/ or a proper cooler first.
Not quite into a air cooler tough, was more inclined to a AIO wc cooler, altough read that the top air ones could match them in performance, altough aesthetically the closed loop ones do look better tongue.gif.
Regarding shops, here are some good ones here in Portugal:

Www.moddingworld.pt/ is a bit pricey but as far as portuguese shops go, they have a huge variety of hardware.

Www.chiptec.pt is my usual to go place, mainly cause they have a shop near my workplace and they have good prices usually.

We are suggesting the SSD first because you'll notice load times will be multiple times faster whereas a new CPU might get you 20% faster performance in benchmarks, and only 2-3 FPS in games. There just more to gain there for the money at the moment. And the logic i've been applying to CPU upgrades atm is if you can hold off until December/January i would do so. 6-8 Core Zen configs are supposed to compete with the 5820k and 5960X. So we'll either see lower prices on intel, or a new AMD build might be in order. Either way after the 6 months is up, you either get a cpu with more cores, or a cheaper CPU i would think. I would totally ignore the Kaby Lake talk as it is likely just a 2-3% increase over Skylake. Waiting for Zen would be key though i think even if you want to go Intel.

After that i might prioritize a monitor next. You could buy more RAM, or a CPU cooler, but if you upgrade to Zen (You might not want to, and i'm not pushing you to) then the cooler might not be compatible, and if you go 6700k, zen, or 5820k they all take DDR4 now.

You can totally buy a new CPU now if you want (I just did), but you might be kicking yourself in a few months if you find out you coulda got a 6 core for the same price. (Intel, or AMD)

Hope this helps! redface.gif


PS: AMD is looking to push 6-8 core CPUs at launch with IPC around Ivy-Bridge. So that's where i'm getting the theory about more cores for the same price.
 
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post #13 of 15
I'm with shilka, that rig is low on CPU cooler and SSD.
2500K is fine, sure if you want to upgrade it it's fine now but you won't see magic gains in games.
$1000 is a lot if that's alone for CPU+MB, I bet it's not and you would want to fit any other upgrade into that as well.

250GB+ SSD, about 500/500MB/s R/W, MLC or newest Samsung TLC that has already solved the TLC issues unlike other companies
You could grab a second hand Z97 with an i7 4790K and some more RAM. Cooler is a personal preference but you need something bigger, about 750g air cooler is fine you don't need 1.2Kg Noctua.

If you want a new one now, then Skylake which goes from i5 6400 to i7 6700K. Boards are a personal preference and depends on what features you need.

Intel Kaby Lake will come end of 2016, start of 2017, same for AMD Zen. Intel offers up to 5% better IPC compared to previous generation but not always higher clocks and higher overall performance. Right now 4790K and 6700K are the best i7 4C.
Zen should put AMD back on track with Intel offerings and create a competition that should drive prices down where as now Intel has locked prices up and is milking the cow, disabling OC ability from anything but K and X series, etc.

I definitely look forward to Zen but that is still 6+ months away.

Don't feed Intel, keep your 2500K, get an SSD and a decent cooler if your current one is not up to the task of the 2500K. Otherwise you are set for VR just fine and the GPU is a more likely limit than the CPU especially if you OC the 2500K.

Some coolers:
Cryorig, Raijintek, Thermalright, ... weight around 750g of the cooler, prices around 40-45 EUR, fan 120-140mm.
AIOs are overpriced for what cooling performance they offer plus pump noise.
Edited by JackCY - 6/17/16 at 3:24am
post #14 of 15
Honestly, if you must upgrade, the furthest id go atm is if you can get a cheap 2600k or 2700k, that would save you a lot of money and give you a performance boost thats worth every penny. if you were to upgrade to the latest, youd be spending alot of money for niche features that only really benefit video encoding etc.

Other than that, i 2nd an upgraded SSD.
post #15 of 15
While we have no proof that CPU cooler mounts will not change, the likelihood is they will remain the same as they now are

LGA 1366/2011 mount spacing is the same, only difference is build in back plate and threaded holes for front mounting plate.
LGA 1150/1155, 1151 are all the same.
AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+/AM3/AM2+/AM2 are all same mounting and have been for donkey's years.

So the odds are that getting a good cooler to use now will be usable on a new build on down the road. Good cooler is $35-$60.00. Scythee Fuma is a very good cooler at a very good price of $50.00 It is among the very best and $20-40 lower priced.
https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-SCFM-1000-Compact-Socket-Cooler/dp/B01B53HG0W/ref=sr_1_112?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466163580&sr=1-112&keywords=cpu+cooler&refinements=p_89%3APhanteks%7Cnoctua%7CCRYORIG%7CDeepcool%7CScythe%7CThermalright

8GB of RAM is extremely marginal. 16GB is resonable for modern systems. I'm using 8.15GB right now doing almost nothing. Modern software simple uses a lot more RAM then it used to. You can add another 8GB of same RAM you have for $30-40.00
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-240-Pin/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466163736&sr=1-2&keywords=cmz8gx3m2a1600c9

As everyone is saying, SSD makes a huge difference in system performance, but honestly a 250GB SSD is big enough for most of us. You can get one between $50-80.00. The 'sweet spot' value point is 250-256GB SSDs. Samsung 850 EVO 250GB are $70.00
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466163768&sr=1-1&keywords=ssd

RAM. . $30.00
Cooler $50.00
SSD. . $70.00
Total $150.00

And only component not tranferable to new build is $30.00 for RAM.

I have 5 systems here.,
Only one is new (i7 6700K) with 256 SSD and 16GB.
2 are notebooks with 256GB SSDs, 1 is 4GB and othr is 8GB RAM (and at times they slow down because of RAM).
2 are i7 980 & 980X with 128GB SSDs, 1 is 12GB and other is 16GB.
All are running Win7 except one notebook on XP.
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