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Where the heck are you buying your games? It's definitely not on Steam..

Woah, do people even buy games from Steam? I got them all on Steam but I buy them all from G2A, G2A For life my friend, just look for any game older than 4 months and your eyes will pop out if you're not used to these prices.

It's like Steam Sales 24/7 365 days a year, I even bought a Pre Purchase for Overwatch Origins for 35$ on G2A, Pre Purchase Origins, don't confuse with the base 39$ version.
Edited by Dargonplay - 6/19/16 at 3:30pm
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Woah, do people even buy games from Steam? I got them all on Steam but I buy them all from G2A, G2A For life my friend, just look for any game older than 4 months and your eyes will pop out if you're not used to these prices.

It's like Steam Sales 24/7 365 days a year, I even bought a Pre Purchase for Overwatch Origins for 35$ on G2A, Pre Purchase.

Whoa, do people buy games on G2A?

Sorry, but if a game is good enough that I'm going to buy it, my money is going to the developers, not a bunch of Russians cashing out stolen credit cards.
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Woah, do people even buy games from Steam? I got them all on Steam but I buy them all from G2A, G2A For life my friend, just look for any game older than 4 months and your eyes will pop out if you're not used to these prices.

It's like Steam Sales 24/7 365 days a year, I even bought a Pre Purchase for Overwatch Origins for 35$ on G2A, Pre Purchase.

I know of G2A, even titles older than 4 months don't go as cheap as you're insinuating, only the very old stuff does. Also not comfortable buying from places like that.. If we all did it then devs would support PC even less than they currently do.
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Whoa, do people buy games on G2A?

Sorry, but if a game is good enough that I'm going to buy it, my money is going to the developers, not a bunch of Russians cashing out stolen credit cards.

Even for Ubisoft, EA and Activision?

I've heard this a lot, but I've never seen proof of it beyond the fact that games are cheaper than everywhere else and that doesn't prove they are somehow stealing, it only proves they are very good at their job.
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I know of G2A, even titles older than 4 months don't go as cheap as you're insinuating, only the very old stuff does.

Alright, we're going off topic now but the fact is PC games will always be exponentially cheaper compared to console, now how about you buy my R9 290 smile.gif
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Naysaying

Hey, I'm waiting for you to Naysay something now, gotta go out in half an hour so hurry up!


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PSU with 4 12V rails LOL what the hell is that? I suppose you know that you should buy decent things right? Have you searched reviews for what you linked or just put toghether the cheapeast thing you could find just to prove your point?

120 GB is not enough for a gaming PC.

That case is absolutely disgusting. Where's the airflow at?

What's up with that no brand motherboard? Who provides drivers? Is it reliable?

Where's the OS at? Additional fans?

You put toghether a mumbo jumbo of random crappy parts to prove your point,and in the end it's still 100 bucks expensive than a second hand PS4 with warranty. You fail to realize it does not matter your build is 4 times as powerful to someone who is looking to buy a console. Because they're looking to buy the most valid option within their budget. And with a budget of <500,anything but a console is not valid.

Brand new there's nothing that can match the price of a console,used neither.

Brand new PS4 go for 300,used for 225/250. Even lower if we consider no warranty like the used parts you linked. Build me something decent with that.
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Even for Ubisoft, EA and Activision?

I've heard this a lot, but I've never seen proof of it beyond the fact that games are cheaper than everywhere else and that doesn't prove they are somehow stealing, it only proves they are very good at their job.
Alright, we're going off topic now but the fact is PC games will always be exponentially cheaper compared to console, now how about you buy my R9 290 smile.gif
Hey, I'm waiting for you to Naysay something now, gotta go out in half an hour so hurry up!


Buddy if there was proof the people running G2A would already be in prison. Bottom line is that if the Devs say they are getting thousands/tens of thousands of chargebacks for keys they sold legitimately to people that are not G2A but ultimately get traced back to G2A by people saying their credit card information was stolen and used for fraudulent purchases, there is only one logical conclusion.

Chargebacks cost companies more than the initial purchase. G2A is a financial negative for every developer who has the misfortune of seeing their game sold on that site.

The legitimate sites that G2A feeds off of get hurt too, chargebacks also cost them money. They've gone through great lengths to prevent mass purchasing through their storefront such as limiting the number of copies a single card can purchase, tracking point of origin, tracking browsing patterns, etc... and they still get taken in because when you have a botnet or two at your disposal filtering key purchases through thousands of computers around the world isn't a big deal.
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Buddy if there was proof the people running G2A would already be in prison. Bottom line is that if the Devs say they are getting thousands/tens of thousands of chargebacks for keys they sold legitimately to people that are not G2A but ultimately get traced back to G2A by people saying their credit card information was stolen and used for fraudulent purchases, there is only one logical conclusion.

Chargebacks cost companies more than the initial purchase. G2A is a financial negative for every developer who has the misfortune of seeing their game sold on that site.

The legitimate sites that G2A feeds off of get hurt too, chargebacks also cost them money. They've gone through great lengths to prevent mass purchasing through their storefront such as limiting the number of copies a single card can purchase, tracking point of origin, tracking browsing patterns, etc... and they still get taken in because when you have a botnet or two at your disposal filtering key purchases through thousands of computers around the world isn't a big deal.

I wonder if it's possible for Steam to block those keys? It would be hilarious for people to watch their "amazing deals" go up in smoke..
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I wonder if it's possible for Steam to block those keys? It would be hilarious for people to watch their "amazing deals" go up in smoke..
It has happened before,so yes.
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It has happened before,so yes.

They always block those keys, I don't know where you guys are getting this BS, as soon as there is information about stolen keys steam, developers and publishers will lock down those keys.

Stolen keys aren't like physical goods, they can all be tracked down and dealt with.

In years upon years of buying from G2A I've never had any issue whatsoever.
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Here I search for you the fastest most powerful cheap as nothing ultimate budget build with 400% more performance than a PS4 and still way above a 4 TFLOPS PS4 NEO, No Auctions This Time (Shame, if you bid and keep an eye on auctions you can really get everything up to 40% cheaper than what I'm going to list, but that's too much of an annoyance for OCN users)

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When Polaris Launch I assure you any 290 wont ever go above 100$, my 290 will be one of the last ones to ever be sold for 150$ smile.gif

Build Total: 367$ WITHOUT AUCTIONS, 20$ cheaper than the build featured in the video I posted before and 35% FASTER.

Destroyer of Consoles: CHECK

Destroys the PS4 1.8 TFLOPS: CHECK

Destroys the PS4 NEO 4 TFLOPS: CHECK

No Auctions: CHECK.

Items readily available: CHECK

No Derps: CHECK.

If you're interested on my 290 PM or quote here, I've never sold anything on OCN but there's always a first time smile.gif

Right now, I'm just eager to see what naysayers are going to rant about now.

In addition to everything @GoLDii3 said...

Still not Haswell IPC. Or even close. You'd get sued for false advertisement, seriously. And you want to OC by 70% on a board with no VRM cooling? lachen.gif

Items still readily available for only one person. Not a sustainable solution for the millions of potential users.

Still did not list shipping costs. They are not all free shipping. Get out your calc. The motherboard alone if $10 shipping.

Still using a ghetto PSU that may kill everything. Looks can be deceiving. Johnny agrees. But it doesn't matter, because it sold. See 2nd point.
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