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Said like a true PC fanboy who has never played the games he/she speaks of, you have to lie about the technical specs of consoles games, like UC4, which is not 900p30fps. Keep trying though.

And yes, it looks much better than the games you mentioned, but by your logic, the magic of resolution and framerate would make Minecraft look better at 4k/120fps than any of those games at 1440p/60fps. If you want to keep lying to yourself, be my guest.

PCs don't have the software support to make optimal use of their power. It's market/consumer driven, and most PC gamers don't have optimal PCs.

You got schooled already.

PC does have console optimization, you can be GPU Bound with no bottlenecks anywhere with low end CPUs, even the CPU listed on my build can match a Skylake CPU over on DX12 as the GPU becomes the most important factor in DX12.

And you're the one who doesn't even know what you're talking about, even call of duty BO3 looks better on PC than Uncharted on consoles just because of the set of features that a PS4 will never have that I said on my previous post, get over it.

You play on consoles for convenience and exclusives not quality, otherwise you're lying to yourself and missing out.
Edited by Dargonplay - 7/13/16 at 12:32pm
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Dragonplay - makes up fake technical specifications, gets called out for it, claims win and that the other guy doesn't know what he's talking about

Excellent internetting today, buddy thumb.gif
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You play on consoles for convenience not quality, otherwise you're lying to yourself and missing out.

Actually i played* on consoles for exclusives, the convenience was a bonus i guess.
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Actually i played* on consoles for exclusives, the convenience was a bonus i guess.

You made me edit my post.

I hate you!
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Dragonplay - makes up fake technical specifications, gets called out for it, claims win and that the other guy doesn't know what he's talking about

Excellent internetting today, buddy thumb.gif

Are you sure you're not talking about yourself here? Pretty sure you are.

Consoles are stuck at a resolution with 6 times less pixels and definition, with poor graphical effects, Low 30 FPS with huge input lag, stuttering and an AA method called "FXAA" which is a post processing junk of the lowest (some games can make it work nicely though) quality AA ever invented with atrocious side effects like texture blurring on top of the already blurry and poor resolution.

My 1440p 150 FPS True MSAA/SMAA with 6 times more definition 15 times less input lag, 8 Bit true color depth with the entire color gamut presented, Freesync, Blur Movement reduction integrated on the Panel's Overdrive working alongside Adaptive Sync and monstrous quality settings is what I call quality when combined with superior graphical presets exclusives to PC, like seriously?

Uncharted 4 on PS4 is like, that guy your Ex tried to replace you with while you're the real PC version, it'll never be the same, no matter how much they lie to themselves.
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Said like a true console fanboy.

Uncharted 4 at 900p looks better than Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1, Crysis 3, The Witcher 3 all maxed out at 1440p boys, that magical cinematic 30 FPS 900p feel can't ever be matched, time to pack it up gentlemen!

Said like a true PC fanboy who has never played the games he/she speaks of, you have to lie about the technical specs of consoles games, like UC4, which is not 900p30fps. Keep trying though.

And yes, it looks much better than the games you mentioned, but by your logic, the magic of resolution and framerate would make Minecraft look better at 4k/120fps than any of those games at 1440p/60fps. If you want to keep lying to yourself, be my guest.

PCs don't have the software support to make optimal use of their power. It's market/consumer driven, and most PC gamers don't have optimal PCs.


Minecraft gives you incredible details in the landscape at a distance, I think that game benefits massively from higher resolution.
I'll go right out and say it: Minecraft is one of the best looking games ever made.

You just have to appreciate what you're looking at. Uncharted can give you a sprawling vista, but Minecraft lets you create and manipulate sprawling vistas, everything you're looking at has meaning like no other game does. It's like the sense of awe looking at a night shot of the Earth from orbit. Pretty picture, sure, but the mind blowing part is realising the scope of of Human accomplishemnts, or if you're looking at a picture with no human presence, you can see the potential represented in any given natural landscape, and intricate functional system that produces something beautiful. These principles are absent from any static environment. Minecraft lets you experience a sense of awe like no other game can.

And everything is just better at 120hz, if nothing else it makes looking at a computer screen for hours on end less tiring.
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^^^ LOL @ Dragonplay; you continue to show use how little you know. Consoles are not "stuck" with "low 30 FPS" and FXAA. Even the game you're acting like you've played is praised for it's AA implementation (which is not FXAA by the way). How many more specifications are you gong to try to lie to this community about?

By the way, what looks better or worse is subjective. Claiming that UC4 is only 900/30 and that consoles can only run at 30 fps and only use FXAA is flat out lying.
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Consoles are stuck at a resolution with 6 times less pixels
Again can you stop making stuff up. 3,686,400 pixels is not 6x 2,073,600 pixels. Even 900p(uncharted multiplayer that runs at 60fps) is 1,440,000 pixels. Uncharted 4 also has great Character Rendering, does not matter that it is a ps4 game. You're acting superior because you have a system that can play games with very nice visual qualities, however visuals are not everything. People who limit themselves to only one system/console out of choice because they think their piece of plastic/metal is better make me laugh. They end up missing numerous gems. You also mentioned stuttering on consoles, but I believe you are having that exact issue on your 1080 which is over 3x as expensive as a used ps4. All the issues you listed with console gaming also happen to people on pc. It is just PC has a much higher ceiling for visuals and performance if you know where to look and what to buy and if devs spend the time to optimize.
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By the way, what looks better or worse is subjective.

So 900p/1080p 30 FPS is subjectively better looking than 4K @ 60Hz or 1440p @ 144Hz.

Just like blurry textures are subjectively better than 6 times crispier textures.

Post Processing AA like FXAA is subjectively better than MSAA/SMAA or supersampling.

Microstuttering feels better than FreeSync/G-Sync.

Huge input lags are more realistic than lower ones, subjectively.

30 FPS cinematic feels is subjectively superior to any FPS above that.

Gotcha.
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So 900p/1080p 30 FPS is subjectively better looking than 4K @ 60Hz or 1440p @ 144Hz.

Just like blurry textures are subjectively better than 6 times crispier textures.

Post Processing AA like FXAA is subjectively better than MSAA/SMAA or supersampling.

Microstuttering feels better than FreeSync/G-Sync.

Huge input lags are more realistic than lower ones, subjectively.

30 FPS cinematic feels is subjectively superior to any FPS above that.

Gotcha.

Read my last post, you posted right after I finished replying. biggrin.gif

1440p does not have 6x the pixels as 1080p

The Order(good or bad) uses 4xMSAA.

A well optimized game on console does not micro stutter and if I am right your 1080 is currently micro stuttering because of bad drivers.

A mouse and keyboard will always be more accurate than a controller, however using a analog stick will make you not feel that input lag as much.

I am used to 30fps but the higher the better, as long as the 30 is solid it is not too bad, but when it jumps like it did in the witcher 3 before numerous patches it was not pleasant.
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This thread lol

Interesting to see who can't appreciate the used market. They want to blow cash then it's their prerogative, doesn't change my purchase habits.
    
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