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$650 for a computer that beats consoles, riiiiiight. Does that include monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones/speakers?

Polaris goes a long way to making it a reality, but the OS cuts off $100 right there, and $550 in parts + shipping + tax... I'm not too certain of that number.
All of those "$500 Gaming PC" builds either leave the OS out, utilize used parts, or use very low end super cheap cases and power supplies. I love how these comparisons are all made based on PC games costing $40, when nearly every AAA PC game I've seen released is also $60 - even on Steam.
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$650 for a computer that beats consoles, riiiiiight. Does that include monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones/speakers?

Most consoles don't include display or audio devices either, only one or two input devices.

$650 has been able to buy the chassis and the contents needed to match or best current consoles at similar quality settings, in most games that can be directly compared, since shortly after the consoles were released.
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Does that include monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones/speakers?
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I love how these comparisons are all made based on PC games costing $40, when nearly every AAA PC game I've seen released is also $60 - even on Steam.

If you are paying full retail for PC games....
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If you are paying full retail for PC games....
If you are paying full retail for console games....
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If you are paying full retail for console games....

You are the norm, not the exception... rolleyes.gif
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$650 for a computer that beats consoles, riiiiiight. Does that include monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones/speakers?

Polaris goes a long way to making it a reality, but the OS cuts off $100 right there, and $550 in parts + shipping + tax... I'm not too certain of that number.

What? People still paying more than 400$ to play at 150+ FPS 1080p Maxed out PC Games? Jesus.

That's 380$ and can be had for even less, you can absolutely get the monitor, Keyboard, Mouse and much more with 600$, and I find it funny you don't mention that with consoles you also need a TV, and with a PC you can also use a TV, making that point moot.

Now with Polaris instead of 380$ you can expect around 299$ for the same build, for a build that can already do 1440p just fine, and expect an updated 385$ capable of 4K, I'm not even joking.
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All of those "$500 Gaming PC" builds either leave the OS out, utilize used parts, or use very low end super cheap cases and power supplies. I love how these comparisons are all made based on PC games costing $40, when nearly every AAA PC game I've seen released is also $60 - even on Steam.

Windows 10 is free if you have any Vista, 7 or 8 Key, they are basically everywhere.

These are used parts yes, but how is this a downside? PC components can no problem survive a 2 meters fall, seen it with CPUs and GPUs, they wont just die after 3 years of use, not even with heavy overclocking, but then these Xeons weren't used for overclocking but server usage with durability in mind.

And hell no, these are definitely not super cheap parts, Yes, they are super cheap Now, but they were 350$ just 2 years ago, Xeons don't maintain their values despite being the same chip as Intel's mainstream i3, i5 and i7 lines because of no marketing, no demand (uneducated users) and the fact that Intel really don't want the mainstream market on Xeons basically.

What? Steam? LMAO, with all due respect, with my over 3000$ of steam games I've purchased 2 of those games on Steam, G2A for life babe, I got Overwatch Origins for 35$ before it even launched, which retails for 59$ on Battle.net, I also got MKX for 1$ and I don't remember ever paying more than 39$ for a game that just launched.

CONCLUSION: THIS 380$ PC RUNS EVERYTHING AT 1080P, COD BLACK OPS 150 FPS HIGH GRAPHICS NP WHILE STILL USING 50% OF NEW PARTS INFLATING ITS PRICE.
Edited by Dargonplay - 6/18/16 at 3:07pm
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CONCLUSION: THIS 380$ PC RUNS EVERYTHING AT 1080P, COD BLACK OPS 150 FPS HIGH GRAPHICS NP WHILE STILL USING 50% OF NEW PARTS INFLATING ITS PRICE.

The CPU, GPU, motherboard, PSU, and ram are all used... 50% new parts rolleyes.gif

I suppose the new SSD, case, and CPU cooler are the real core parts of any CPU build biggrin.gif
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The CPU, GPU, motherboard, PSU, and ram are all used... 50% new parts rolleyes.gif

I suppose the new SSD, case, and CPU cooler are the real core parts of any CPU build biggrin.gif

37.5% new parts, doesn't affect my argument one bit, you can expect to get that kind of performance under 299$ after Polaris Launch.
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the next era of console gaming. An era where consoles won’t be tied to a particular set of hardware architecture for a number of years but instead Microsoft will be pushing a upgraded SKU every 3-4 years. The next Xbox will see a massive boost in GPU processing and a big jump in memory bandwidth along with a possible boost in CPU clock speed.

http://gamingbolt.com/microsofts-aaron-greenberg-xbox-one-scorpio-will-break-the-wall-between-pc-and-console-gamers
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Originally Posted by Dargonplay View Post

37.5% new parts, doesn't affect my argument one bit

Comparing used a systems to new console prices... Not at all disingenuous... rolleyes.gif

Can pick up a used PS4 for under $250 or an Xbox One for under $150...
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