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post #11 of 16
Roccat KPM maybe?
post #12 of 16
To the OP here;

Have recently purchased a new Roccat Kiro Mouse (for the juniors).

Good form with removable sides, so it can be used either by lefties or righties. Also feels like they are still using an ALPs Scroll Wheel which are the BEST available.

You can install two side switches or simply install a blank moulded plate. It's all held together by really small magnets which are quite strong. Have tried shaking them side to side and nothing is rattling or making a sound, quite a durable little mouse. The surface finish on the mouse body has an almost Savu side texture but the top surface is rubber coated and doesn't leave any unpleasant markings from your sweaty fingers.

Think it has a 3320 sensor inside it, so it will need further firmware upgrades but at least Roccat are the last ones that will update their sensor compared to other companies who are so useless at it (note; CoolerMaster, Zowie and Thermaltake).

Well worth acquiring because of it's smaller size, compared to some other meeses yessir.gif .
Edited by Elrick - 6/17/16 at 7:42pm
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by Elrick View Post

To the OP here;

Have recently purchased a new Roccat Kiro Mouse (for the juniors).

Good form with removable sides, so it can be used either by lefties or righties. Also feels like they are still using an ALPs Scroll Wheel which are the BEST available.

You can install two side switches or simply install a blank moulded plate. It's all held together by really small magnets which are quite strong. Have tried shaking them side to side and nothing is rattling or making a sound, quite a durable little mouse. The surface finish on the mouse body has an almost Savu side texture but the top surface is rubber coated and doesn't leave any unpleasant markings from your sweaty fingers.

Think it has a 3320 sensor inside it, so it will need further firmware upgrades but at least Roccat are the last ones that will update their sensor compared to other companies who are so useless at it (note; CoolerMaster, Zowie and Thermaltake).

Well worth acquiring because of it's smaller size, compared to some other meeses yessir.gif .

Thanks! I'll have a look.
post #14 of 16
I originally dismissed the Kiro because 120cm and 100g seemed on the larger & heavier side of things. Plus I was among the first few Kone customers back then that got screwed over by the terrible quality standards Roccat used to have, which I never really forgave them for. And the mouse is of course not on the OCN sensor list, so I wasn't too sure about what is in it.

But I guess it's worth trying out at that price if you are happy with it.

Thanks!
Edited by DroppedFrame - 6/20/16 at 5:02am
post #15 of 16
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But I guess it's worth trying out at that price if you are happy with it.

Thanks!

The Kiro is nice to hold if you have smaller hands hence it's size but the sensor I specified earlier is wrong, it uses a 3050 sensor. I know a lot of enthusiasts here on OCN despise that sensor intensely but for everyday office jobs it's superb but in gaming, it probably won't stand up to any 3310 or 3366 sensor types.

If you are a sensor fanatic then look elsewhere but if you want a comfortable mouse to use in your work then this is it.
post #16 of 16
Where does the 3050 fit in?

I have tried the 3310 (Castor), 3320 (RAT 1), 3366 (G303), 3090 (Zowie FK, the original one) and even the 9500/9800 sensors (G600, Kone, Ouroboros, etc.) and can barely tell any difference. The only sensor that really somewhat stood out was the 3320 in the Xornet 2, but apparently that was not due to the sensor but due to the inconsistent polling rates of that mouse.

Currently I'm using Logitech's Anywhere MX 2, which supposedly has that "Darkfield" sensor (are there any details on what that actually is? I couldn't find anything so far), and I'm mostly happy with it. The only real issues are how it only goes up to 1600 DPI - I prefer somewhere around 2800 or so, so I have increased the sensitivity in Windows currently; and how the side buttons don't continuously report mouse pressed events but only single clicks, even when keeping the button pressed - I sometimes assign the LMB actions to button 4 in games that require spamming/holding down LMB, like in Minecraft, because of how hard LMBs can be to click on some mice.

edit:
on a related note, I'm still curious about the 398x mice, but the only "small" one of those (evga torq x5) does not seem to be sold any more. Are there any other alternatives that are not listed on the OCN mouse sensor list?
Edited by DroppedFrame - 6/21/16 at 1:38am
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