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Kyle Bennett's "excellent" understanding of silicon lithography
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Kyle Bennett's "excellent" understanding of silicon lithography

lol
Both 14nm and 16nm are essentially 20nm + finfet, 14nm has MAYBE 10% advantage in density, but it would vary depending on design. Even intel's 14nm has ~20% density advantage over tsmc's 16nm. If glofo/samsung had a denser process than intel they'd be bragging about it non-stop
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Kyle Bennett's "excellent" understanding of silicon lithography

I assume Kyle is beyond repair and needs to be replaced by a new and why not a 480 card? biggrin.gif

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lol
Both 14nm and 16nm are essentially 20nm + finfet, 14nm has MAYBE 10% advantage in density, but it would vary depending on design. Even intel's 14nm has ~20% density advantage over tsmc's 16nm. If glofo/samsung had a denser process than intel they'd be bragging about it non-stop

Yea, thats the consensus. thumb.gif
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Keep this in mind.

Usually when a company isn't happy with their product, they will hype the crap out of it.

If they are happy about it, they will remain tight lipped about it and let the product sell itself through review sites.


This is part of the reason I think the RX 480 is going to be a runaway success... AMD has not hyped it up. However, the INTERNET has hyped it up, so we shall see if that tactic by them worked.
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Keep this in mind.

Usually when a company isn't happy with their product, they will hype the crap out of it.

If they are happy about it, they will remain tight lipped about it and let the product sell itself through review sites.


This is part of the reason I think the RX 480 is going to be a runaway success... AMD has not hyped it up. However, the INTERNET has hyped it up, so we shall see if that tactic by them worked.

You sure they haven't hyped it up? Seems from their slides to be pretty hype-worthy (2x > 1x 1080, 2.5x perf:watt or whatever it was, etc.).

And when did retired staff get the rep option?
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I consider the 1080 and overclocking failure because its real stock speeds are 1850ish, and cards barely reach 2050 stable. While 200MHz is nice and what a lot of cards through generations have been getting, it is barely more than 10% in reality, on top of which Nvidia made wildly false claims and impressions that 2.1Ghz would be a really easy to achieve standard on any old card and with really low temperatures, which proved completely false. So when Nvidia claimed one thing and supposedly showed a demo of it, people expected the better cards out there to be able to get at least an extra 100MHz over what was "easily achievable on any random card". So that is why it is considered an overclocking failure. The 1080 didn't live up to Nvidia's actual promise, it didn't live up to hype, it didn't live up to standard expectations, and it didn't live up to past GPU average OC history.

This is basically the nVidia's version of the "overclocker's dream".
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This is basically the nVidia's version of the "overclocker's dream".

lol

Hopefully the RX480 is the 970 equivalent where you can get like 1600-1650 on water EZPZ.
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lol

Hopefully the RX480 is the 970 equivalent where you can get like 1600-1650 on water EZPZ.

RX480 > SLI 1080s
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lol

Hopefully the RX480 is the 970 equivalent where you can get like 1600-1650 on water EZPZ.

Like I said, if you want to unlock FURYOUS MODE you gotta solder an extra 8 pin to it.

or admit defeat and cough up the dough for an AIB card
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