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it was expected since it has 120w or so power consumption and performance better than a 380x with a 200usd price




Suggests 24 Mh/s for Ethereum mining on the RX 480. For comparison, the R9 390 yeild around 31Mh/s
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a card sold is a card sold, regardless of the purpose. Selling cards doesn't hurt AMD unless they are selling at a loss.
you'd think that but Ive read many times around here that miner craze for 290 hurt AMD a lot later
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I don't understand why miners buying these cards would hurt AMD...

It would hurt us consumers as prices would go up most probably.
Edited by Ha-Nocri - 6/26/16 at 8:27am
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I wouldn't mind a single 8-pin
A 6-pin connector is good for between 200 to 300 watts. The 6-pin connector has 4 current carrying wires in it, the 8-pin has 6.

The 75 W "rating" for the 6-pin connector is completely artificial if you have a good PSU.

they BOTH have 3 lines of 12volts. old 6 pin could have 2 on cheap PSUs; that is why there is 1 sensor on 6 pin but 2 sensors on 8 pin. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Pin 2 is not defined on the 6-pin, pin 5 is a sense line. Often 2 is tied to +12v and 5 is grounded (and not supposed to carry current), but they are not part of the 6-pin connector. "Cheap PSUs" are actually the compliant ones here.


Edited by Dyson Poindexter - 6/26/16 at 8:29am
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I don't understand why miners buying these cards would hurt AMD...

It would hurt us consumers are prices would go up most probably.

I believe the theory is that it drives up initial prices and keeps cards out of the hands of actual gamers, which hurts mindshare. Then the market is flooded with secondhand cards later, which hurts long term sales. At least that's what was said about the 290s.
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you'd think that but Ive read many times around here that miner craze for 290 hurt AMD a lot later

That is because GPU mining for profitability is short lived and cyclical. A few months down the line and the market becomes flooded with used mining GPUs which will eat away at new card sales...
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That is because GPU mining for profitability is short lived and cyclical. A few months down the line and the market becomes flooded with used mining GPUs which will eat away at new card sales...

Still don't see how it's bad for AMD
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Still don't see how it's bad for AMD
Cards that have been used 24/7 at full potential. Probably at the breaking point.
Not only does it hurt mindshare keeping the cards out of the hands of gamers, it also makes AMD cards seem unreliable because second hand buyers will buy cards near the end of their life due to being used far beyond what they were intended for.

All of this hurts AMD's already lackluster image.
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Still don't see how it's bad for AMD

Initial inventory goes to miners instead of gamers. Gamers buy alternative products during the mining craze due to price gouging and strained supply channels. When miners liquidate inventory down the line, they create a surplus of cheap used GPUs that eat away at retail sales. The quarterly and yearly revenues are negatively impacted as a result.
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I still think that's way overblown.
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