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Cards that have been used 24/7 at full potential. Probably at the breaking point.
Not only does it hurt mindshare keeping the cards out of the hands of gamers, it also makes AMD cards seem unreliable because second hand buyers will buy cards near the end of their life due to being used far beyond what they were intended for.

All of this hurts AMD's already lackluster image.
Used cards have less coil whine, if any. Through normal operation you don't count mean time to failure hours of vrm chips, the heat cycle count is more prevalent in reliability, afaik.
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I still think that's way overblown.

If you still can't comprehend the impact of a surge of used products hitting the market, I'll just refer you to the 9.5% market share drop for AMD from Q2 to Q3 2014 ...
Edited by Slomo4shO - 6/26/16 at 8:49am
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a card sold is a card sold, regardless of the purpose. Selling cards doesn't hurt AMD unless they are selling at a loss.

gpu mining is profitable depending on what coin you mine, the current go to is ethereum which is about as profitable as litecoin was when it was first introduced.

It hurts AMD in two ways. The gamers who can't get their hands on cards swap over to NVIDIA (not by choice) and regaining a lost customer is really difficult - many will then stick to NVIDIA for life. Secondly, RMA rates on cards used for mining is 2-3x higher within the first two years (warranty). I've personally seen this with a sample size of several thousand units.
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Suggests 24 Mh/s for Ethereum mining on the RX 480. For comparison, the R9 390 yeild around 31Mh/s

That seems... Poor. I get 21.5 MH/s on my HD 7950s, something is definitely not right there.
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Just get an ASIC for the price of the GPU for gorram sake, it will give you more virtual money for your stolen electricity.
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Just get an ASIC for the price of the GPU for gorram sake, it will give you more virtual money for your stolen electricity.
  1. Ethereum doesn't work with ASICs
  2. I would never buy an ASIC even if it did. With a GPU I only need to turn about 30 % ROI to break even as I can sell the hardware should SHTT. With an ASIC, it's worthless after a SHTT scenario.
  3. I pay around $ 0.13/kwh (converted), I don't know how that's "stolen."
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It hurts AMD in two ways. The gamers who can't get their hands on cards swap over to NVIDIA (not by choice) and regaining a lost customer is really difficult - many will then stick to NVIDIA for life. Secondly, RMA rates on cards used for mining is 2-3x higher within the first two years (warranty). I've personally seen this with a sample size of several thousand units.
That seems... Poor. I get 21.5 MH/s on my HD 7950s, something is definitely not right there.

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It hurts AMD in two ways. The gamers who can't get their hands on cards swap over to NVIDIA (not by choice) and regaining a lost customer is really difficult - many will then stick to NVIDIA for life. Secondly, RMA rates on cards used for mining is 2-3x higher within the first two years (warranty). I've personally seen this with a sample size of several thousand units.
That seems... Poor. I get 21.5 MH/s on my HD 7950s, something is definitely not right there.

it's not a problem if they have sufficient stock at launch. Failure rates I can see, but overall most electrics only have a 1 year warranty now unless it's an extended warranty.

On the mining part, Ethereum is sensitive to memory speeds so it makes perfect sense. It's bitcoin hash rate is much higher and matches that of a 390/390x at stock.
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