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390 beats the 980ti in dx12.
so how is amd gcn behind the bad design of Nvidia really?
Next up is vega to take the crown of entusiast end.
everything points to one thing amd has the superior design. thumb.gif
Sauce?
post #2232 of 2870
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R9 390 can be found even at lower price point than 250$.. But u know why? Coz of RX480.

Imagine that! Polaris anticipation has been influencing prices since October 2015... rolleyes.gif



Or R9 290X pricing since Q4 2014

Edited by Slomo4shO - 6/26/16 at 11:38pm
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post #2233 of 2870
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Originally Posted by flopper View Post

390 beats the 980ti in dx12.
so how is amd gcn behind the bad design of Nvidia really?
Next up is vega to take the crown of entusiast end.
everything points to one thing amd has the superior design. thumb.gif

Well true it could be more the software holding GCN back, that will be discovered when more games use DX12 I suppose.
post #2234 of 2870
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Originally Posted by lolerk52 View Post

Sauce?
It might in Hitman. It sounds and is ridiculous, but yeah, that one game.

Of course an aftermarket 980 Ti would crush any aftermarket 390.

Assuming a 390 ~ 290X.
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Edited by Pyrotagonist - 6/26/16 at 11:39pm
post #2235 of 2870
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Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

Imagine that! Polaris anticipation has been influencing prices since October 2015... rolleyes.gif

Ojo confirmed biggrin.gif
post #2236 of 2870
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Originally Posted by awdrifter View Post

AMD had not said that, but Samsung is saying they'll have 7nm out by end of 2017, assuming they can hit their goal, it'll coincide with AMD's planned launch of Vega. GF is using Samsung tech, so it makes sense that the 4xx generation won't have a big die, they are probably saving money this gen and waiting for the next gen on 7nm.

http://vrworld.com/2016/05/09/samsung-manufacture-ultra-violet-7nm-chips-2017/
There is absolutely no way 7nm will be ready for big dies in 2017, more like the end of 2018.
Also if Vega is not launched by the end of 2016 like a lot of us are hopping we should see it at least in Q1 2017 so I would expect it by the end of february.
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Core improvements for AMD similar to nVidia from an engineering standpoint in my opinion. Let's compare:

390x vs rx480 - 2,8k cores vs 2,3k cores, 20% clock speed difference, same performance. 2.8/(2.3x1.2)=1.015

1070 vs Titan X - 1.9k cores vs 3k cores, 50% clock speed (chevchelios and ileakstuff keep referencing 2100 clocks so that's what I use and compare to 1400 Titan as is ref standard), same performance. 3/(2x1.5)=1.067

On a phone so I can't go in depth.

The thing is 2100mhz is basically all the AIB cards are going up to?

May as well be comparing peak speeds for the architecture?

So maybe a more accurate comparison would be 1500mhz compared with 2100mhz? Correct me if I'm wrong of course.
post #2238 of 2870
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

This is just like R9 285 lol.

20% cheaper but same performance that already exists

And they made all these revolution posters because of that?
post #2239 of 2870
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Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

Imagine that! Polaris anticipation has been influencing prices since October 2015... rolleyes.gif



Or R9 290X pricing since Q4 2014
Here in my area the 2ND hand price went from 300plus$ equivalent to 250$ equivalent just after rx480 being announced...still people are reluctant to buy even at that price
post #2240 of 2870
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Originally Posted by Waitng4realGPU View Post

The thing is 2100mhz is basically all the AIB cards are going up to?

May as well be comparing peak speeds for the architecture?

So maybe a more accurate comparison would be 1500mhz compared with 2100mhz? Correct me if I'm wrong of course.

No, you're correct. And a 1500 MHz Titan X is veeeery close to a 2100MHz 1080. If the 1080 wasn't capable of 2GHz it wouldn't even beat a 1500MHz Titan X at all. But it costs $300 less and is in fact faster so it's still a better buy obviously...
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