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Actually i do believe that might be partially correct. With Microsoft limiting DX12 to W10 only things are not looking bright for DX12 but Vulkan is another thing and should overtake future gaming headlines.

Everybody will be on Win10 eventually. This forum and it's love affair with Win7 is not indicative of the average PC owner who probably doesn't know or care about gaming api's.
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You brought up the R9 380X which is just a rebranded HD 7970.
Are you seriously advocating for the higher pricing brought upon by lack of competition? The only loss here is consumer surplus. rolleyes.gif
Ew the 380X was a rebranded 7970 ?!
It was the 280X biggrin.gif
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Um yes, because you can have $550 card (980) performance for $200 now?

What you guys keep ignoring is that the 480 is just the first card of this generation and is the budget card at that. Nvidia has no competition at the high end but AMD also has no competition at the low end. These segments are just not comparable by logical and unbiased people (and we can clearly see in this thread which posters are absolutely biased and illogical by their arguments). At least this discussion has exposed those posters for what they truly are...

That argument, half the price vs GTX 980, well it doesnt sound very logical considering you can already have the same performance today for the same price difference.
R9 390 and GTX 980 have almost the same difference.

What AMD seems to improve is $200 vs $250. Although 8GB 480 will cost exactly the same as 390..
And power efficiency have improved.

All the best to AMD for improving efficiency by a lot, but in terms of performance gains, it all seems to fall apart.
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That argument, half the price vs GTX 980, well it doesnt sound very logical considering you can already have the same performance today for the same price difference.
R9 390 and GTX 980 have almost the same difference.

390 is not quite as good as the 980, and it's a rebrand with it's architecture pushed very close to the limit.

We still don't know how far Polaris will clock to with more voltage and custom designs.
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That argument, half the price vs GTX 980, well it doesnt sound very logical considering you can already have the same performance today for the same price difference.
R9 390 and GTX 980 have almost the same difference.

What AMD seems to improve is $200 vs $250. Although 8GB 480 will cost exactly the same as 390..
And power efficiency have improved.

All the best to AMD for improving efficiency by a lot, but in terms of performance gains, it all seems to fall apart.

Did you say the same thing with the 1080? It struggles to beat an older 980 Ti . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1443196/fire-strike-extreme-top-30
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That argument, half the price vs GTX 980, well it doesnt sound very logical considering you can already have the same performance today for the same price difference.
R9 390 and GTX 980 have almost the same difference.

What AMD seems to improve is $200 vs $250. Although 8GB 480 will cost exactly the same as 390..
And power efficiency have improved.

All the best to AMD for improving efficiency by a lot, but in terms of performance gains, it all seems to fall apart.
There's a good 15% between 980 and 390: https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

980 is also a better overclocker, so the gap grows in in actual use.
Hopefully those rumors of power limit on the 480 are true and AIB's can actually overclock much higher.
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Did you say the same thing with the 1080? It struggles to beat an older 980 Ti . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1443196/fire-strike-extreme-top-30

What? GTX 1080 is 40% faster stock vs stock and 20% faster overclocked vs overclocked.

GTX 1080 is overpriced. There is no way around that and I have already said that several times. It should have cost $500.
GTX 1070 seems to hit the sweetspot so atleast we have that one.
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The thing is 2100mhz is basically all the AIB cards are going up to?

May as well be comparing peak speeds for the architecture?

So maybe a more accurate comparison would be 1500mhz compared with 2100mhz? Correct me if I'm wrong of course.

Thank you for the correctio! Later tonight when I'm home I will come back to this, with a few more included variables and try to be as technically correct as I can, very curious about the numbers. Cheers.
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What? GTX 1080 is 40% faster stock vs stock and 20% faster overclocked vs overclocked.

GTX 1080 is overpriced. There is no way around that and I have already said that several times. It should have cost $500.
GTX 1070 seems to hit the sweetspot so atleast we have that one.

20%? lol. The 980 Ti can oc higher. at some point, the 1080 can only do so much and get left behind.

The 1070 is indeed the sweet spot if it is $380. But . . .

And it is in short supply. lol

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There's a good 15% between 980 and 390: https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

980 is also a better overclocker, so the gap grows in in actual use.
Hopefully those rumors of power limit on the 480 are true and AIB's can actually overclock much higher.

The gap between the 390 and 980 drops as the rez go higher. As the months go by . . . the gap will even get wider in favor of the 390. And you know why.
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What? GTX 1080 is 40% faster stock vs stock and 20% faster overclocked vs overclocked.
Try 30% and 10% tongue.gif
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