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I'm wondering why AMD is failing at extracting more performance out of the same raw shader performance, when we know there's more headroom to be had there by looking at NVIDIA's offerings.
I'm not asking for MOAR TFLOPS, I'm asking for making better use of those TFLOPS.
Still using same core(CU) as GCN1/GCN2* (or at least it might be)

*SIMD vector and scalar,cache may vary



Maybe the hardware scheduler might improve use of SIMD vector units/scalar
Edited by PontiacGTX - 6/27/16 at 9:22am
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Then you're looking at it from a price point standpoint, which I explained is not what I'm complaining about.

I'm wondering why AMD is failing at extracting more performance out of the same raw shader performance, when we know there's more headroom to be had there by looking at NVIDIA's offerings.

TFlops is a theoretical peak shader performance. And it's used mostly from the PR of each company.

And AMD doesn't need more shader performance. They need to improve their geometry output ,rasterization, pixel fillrate and ROPs performance. And with TFlops you cant compare all these things.
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Then you're looking at it from a price point standpoint, which I explained is not what I'm complaining about.

I'm not asking for MOAR TFLOPS, I'm asking for making better use of those TFLOPS.
I'm wondering why AMD is failing at extracting more performance out of the same raw shader performance, when we know there's more headroom to be had there by looking at NVIDIA's offerings.
yep, that thing is kinda scary. if they can't improve perf/tflops.

usually it's 3 ways you can achieve high performance.
1. moar cores
2. moar jigga hertz
3. more per core performance or ipc or perf/tlops whatever you want to call it.

The problem here is 1. takes die space so you will need big die for big gpu, 2. takes more power unless you improve p/w. 3 one is what Amd seems to be lacking. hell they even gone backwards with it on fiji.

maybe this is why they are talking about multiple die idea. because they have hit a wall and cannot improve perf/tflop. mad.gif that would be good idea but still.
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R9 will be extremely MEH at $250 when 390 cost that and offer the same performance.

Atleast Nvidia offered the fastest card with 1090 although it was expensive
GTX 1070 a tiny bit faster than 980Ti but vastly cheaper.

I find it extremely lolw-orthy AMDs revolution marketing.
AMD fanboys excuse is a more efficient architecture than 390, and even thst is absolutely hilarious considering they were bashing GTX 980 because then it didnt matter.
But now since its AMD it is suddenly important lol
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480 in the house.
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R9 will be extremely MEH at $250 when 390 cost that and offer the same performance.

Atleast Nvidia offered the fastest card with 1090 although it was expensive
GTX 1070 a tiny bit faster than 980Ti but vastly cheaper.

I find it extremely lolw-orthy AMDs revolution marketing.
AMD fanboys excuse is a more efficient architecture than 390, and even thst is absolutely hilarious considering they were bashing GTX 980 because then it didnt matter.
But now since its AMD it is suddenly important lol




1070 and 480 both do same thing, but at different segments.

green team praises it, and those same guys are saying 480 is lolw-orthy. amd was getting trashed for p/w and now when they fixed it it's not important ?

Hypocrisy is real here lol, but expected from fake hyper.
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480 in the house.

no
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Originally Posted by iLeakStuff View Post

R9 will be extremely MEH at $250 when 390 cost that and offer the same performance.

Atleast Nvidia offered the fastest card with 1090 although it was expensive
GTX 1070 a tiny bit faster than 980Ti but vastly cheaper.

I find it extremely lolw-orthy AMDs revolution marketing.
AMD fanboys excuse is a more efficient architecture than 390, and even thst is absolutely hilarious considering they were bashing GTX 980 because then it didnt matter.
But now since its AMD it is suddenly important lol
R9?
1090?
1070 yes is cheaper than 980Ti at launch and better investment overall.

There are people who do not care about power consumption or price or both as well as those who do.

You like the 1080 and it's prices, go buy it.
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Saying the RX480 is a 390X replacement is like saying the 1070 is a 980Ti replacement, since those have same level of performance too.

Right, this card is a replacement for Tonga and it might match the 390X.

As the thread starter said in the op . . . to take WCCF with a pound of salt that it comes within striking distance of the FuryX..
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It's a surprisingly heavy card. I would have liked a backplate, but oh well.
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