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Let's see if I can sum up the complaints.

 

GTX 980 successor: FaASTESt CARD evaR!/!1!!1

 

R9 380 successor: IT'S JUST OFFERING THE SAME PFEROFMANCE THAT ALREADY EXISTS

 

Both of these cards do what a new card should do in terms of performance, which is to say that they move forward the standard for their bracket as defined by AMD/Nvidia product positioning. The fact that the RX 480 is doing so at the same price as its predecessor is a nice feather in the cap, I think. Of course the RX 480 is a side-grade if you're on a 390x/980 or better. We typically don't expect the bottom of the stack to reach the previous gen's flagships, do we? Who was looking at the GTX 960 and going YA TITAN PERF OR BUST. If the 380 ​successor was the same performance as the 380 itself, then I'd understand the complaints. It's not though. It's moving the stack forward as it should. Why is that a bad thing?

     
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Sigh, you've missed the point of this release, like so many others here. It's an attempt for amd to mainstream gaming to the average consumer. Good performance, good price, low power consumption. Everything else as far a speculation is concerned was fabricated by the internet. Amd never claimed it was a power house.

https://twitter.com/AMDRadeon/status/745979045419094016

They actually did when they made claims of being the equivalent of the 4850 / 4870.
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No promises but I will try to have some benchmarks ready for the second the NDA lifts - maaaaaaybe sooner? Hehe. I'll measure the card tomorrow, it's fairly late and I'm in bed.
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1080Ti will be a supercomputer thumb.gif
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Let's see if I can sum up the complaints.

GTX 980 successor: FaASTESt CARD evaR!/!1!!1

R9 380 successor: IT'S JUST OFFERING THE SAME PFEROFMANCE THAT ALREADY EXISTS

Both of these cards do what a new card should do in terms of performance, which is to say that they move forward the standard for their bracket as defined by AMD/Nvidia product positioning. The fact that the RX 480 is doing so at the same price as its predecessor is a nice feather in the cap, I think. Of course the RX 480 is a side-grade if you're on a 390x/980 or better. We typically don't expect the bottom of the stack to reach the previous gen's flagships, do we? Who was looking at the GTX 960 and going YA TITAN PERF OR BUST. If the 380 ​successor was the same performance as the 380 itself, then I'd understand the complaints. It's not though. It's moving the stack forward as it should. Why is that a bad thing?

Yeah but AMD rebranded 290/X into 390/X so they should have been the 380/X with the Fury and Fury X as the 390/X. I think that's the reason people bring up comparing it to the 390/X.
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No promises but I will try to have some benchmarks ready for the second the NDA lifts - maaaaaaybe sooner? Hehe. I'll measure the card tomorrow, it's fairly late and I'm in bed.

Winter came on the same day as October biggrin.gif
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Yeah but AMD rebranded 290/X into 390/X so they should have been the 380/X with the Fury and Fury X as the 390/X. I think that's the reason people bring up comparing it to the 390/X.

 

I don't see the comparison as unfair in and of itself. We compare the 1080 to the 980 Ti for the same reason we should compare the 480 to the 390. But, rebrand or no, the 290/390/x remained competitive for its spot in the product stack so regardless of how people want to perceive it those cards exist. They fill a spot in the stack. They will be replaced in turn, likely by a Vega part, with the ultimate Vega part being used for another special-snowflake card.

 

I see what you're saying, I just don't think it's the most logical way to evaluate AMD's approach.

     
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AMD should have concentrated on the competitors for the GTX 1080/1070 cards instead. Atleast then they could offer something interesting and fast rather than a dull low midrange card.

Even AMD subreddit is extremely disappointed and you find a lot of fanboys there. Many people here on this forum seems to afraid or too stuck up you know what to say anything negative regarding the RX480.
The card would have been a "revolution" if it was faster than 390X by a good amount.
As always with new nodes you find midrange cards matching high end cards of previous nodes. There is nothing amazing about if 480X match a R9 390.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4q43w3/stop_justifying_amd_as_much_as_we_all_like_the/
Edited by iLeakStuff - 6/27/16 at 2:29pm
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AMD should have concentrated on the competitors for the GTX 1080/1070 cards instead. Atleast them they could offer something interesting and fast rather than a dull low midrange card.

Even AMD subreddit is extremely disappointed and you find a lot of fanboys there. Many people here are too afraid and too stuck up you know what to say anything megative regarding the RX480.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4q43w3/stop_justifying_amd_as_much_as_we_all_like_the/

No, they should have not. I hope you never run a business as your business logic is lacking. Why try to create a product to compete when you may or may not come out on top for a select few, when you can create a product to please the masses while having no competition?
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sure, fight the more uphill battle w/less resources; makes perfect sense when you want to lose.
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