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Welcome to OCN! specool.gif

You picked one hell of a time to join us. Based on the way this conversation is going, it's as if the RX 480 is going tear the universe apart come Wednesday.

Well RX 480 is certainly going to cause the fanboys to rip each other a new one laughingsmiley.gif
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The $270 one is probably the OC model then. I think I'll just wait for the next Devil card to come out see how much that is:


Yeah, that's too much for a reference. Maybe there really will be $350 non-reference cards.

This sadly:
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@ $350, you should probably spend an extra $50ish and get a GTX 1070.
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

@ $350, you should probably spend an extra $50ish and get a GTX 1070.

I'm going to go with AMD this round of GPUs as an experiment to see which side is right or wrong when green vs red arguments come up. If the Devil Card is dual GPU like previous models, it will be great because I can jump right into Crossfire and get more data.
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Who want to overclock should wait for this big ass cooler.


Luckily that one turned out to be a fake, so we are in the clear from cheese graters.
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Originally Posted by magnek View Post

This sadly:

I still think the non-reference models will make it at least to Fury X performance, but we will see how everything plays out in a couple of weeks (AMD already knows that the 1070 exists @ $400 so if they are releasing a card in the $350 range it would have to directly compete or the product would not make sense). It could also mean NVIDIA price cuts the 1070 and 1080 to make them more appealing. But I will have to see what the non-reference reviews report first.
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Polaris10, the current leader in performance/$, is launching shortly with good supply. The Nvidia faithful have said that GP106 will be leaked to the public in order to steal AMD's thunder.

My question is: why is Nvidia so quiet about GP106? Why have they seemingly abandoned the mainstream market?

My opinion is: 1280 Cuda Cores with 6GB and 192bit bus can't compete against Polaris10 especially in dx12 and Nvidia's silence is proof. They need to undercut Polaris 10 to compete.

I'm specifically asking the trolls - @ChevChelios?
@iLeakStuff?
Where is GP106? Why Nvidia hiding it? 😉
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Originally Posted by MikeDuffy View Post

Polaris10, the current leader in performance/$, is launching shortly with good supply. The Nvidia faithful have said that GP106 will be leaked to the public in order to steal AMD's thunder.

My question is: why is Nvidia so quiet about GP106? Why have they seemingly abandoned the mainstream market?

My opinion is: 1280 Cuda Cores with 6GB and 192bit bus can't compete against Polaris10 especially in dx12 and Nvidia's silence is proof. They need to undercut Polaris 10 to compete.

I'm specifically asking the trolls - @ChevChelios?
@iLeakStuff?
Where is GP106? Why Nvidia hiding it? 😉

I think the biggest reason Nvidia isn't saying anything about any new cards, yet, is because they want to get GTX 1070's and 1080's into the hands of everyone that want them before announcing a new product. That way, they keep the focus on their 1070/1080 as the highest performing cards currently on the market (at stock at least).

It is very possible that Nvidia may make an announcement on Wednesday in an attempt to steal some of AMD's thunder. It's also possible that Nvidia knows something that we don't, such as perhaps the RX 480 won't deliver on the hype, so they're keeping their mouth shut and letting the world make their decision.

Or... you are right and Nvidia knows their proposed 1060 won't compete. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
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Originally Posted by MikeDuffy View Post

Polaris10, the current leader in performance/$, is launching shortly with good supply. The Nvidia faithful have said that GP106 will be leaked to the public in order to steal AMD's thunder.

My question is: why is Nvidia so quiet about GP106? Why have they seemingly abandoned the mainstream market?

My opinion is: 1280 Cuda Cores with 6GB and 192bit bus can't compete against Polaris10 especially in dx12 and Nvidia's silence is proof. They need to undercut Polaris 10 to compete.

I'm specifically asking the trolls - @ChevChelios?
@iLeakStuff?
Where is GP106? Why Nvidia hiding it? 😉

Considering the 1070 is effectively the same size as the 480 (75% enabled cores * 314 mm = 235 mm)*, I'd say there's a pretty good chance GP106 will compete just fine.

*yes, it's not quite that straight forward, but you get the idea
Edited by Forceman - 6/27/16 at 8:36pm
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I don't think both companies don't have really insider information of each other. Maybe they know a bit more than us but not much.

I remember when AMD engineers said in interview that the first Titan was only meant for computing purpose. Apparently it wasn't.

Or nVidia had priced the GTX780 ridiculously high at $650 before they lowered the price for about $200 because they got undercut severely by 290 series.

Another case is nVidia had to refund their customers who bought GTX280 at launch price since they cut price of the card too quick to make it competitive with HD4870. There's no way they would have done so if they knew AMD was gonna launch new products that very competitive with theirs in both price and performance-wise.

So if there's problem or change in strategy in AMD or nVidia, i think it depends on the company itself more than the competitor.
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I think this card will overclock great on water, the guy from Baidu ATI bar mentioned that he can reach 1.6ghz on air with unlocked voltage.
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Here goes the hype train again...
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I think this card will overclock great on water, the guy from Baidu ATI bar mentioned that he can reach 1.6ghz on air with unlocked voltage.
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I think this card will overclock great on water, the guy from Baidu ATI bar mentioned that he can reach 1.6ghz on air with unlocked voltage.

The hype train is not halting!!
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Considering the 1070 is effectively the same size as the 480 (75% enabled cores * 314 mm = 235 mm)*, I'd say there's a pretty good chance GP106 will compete just fine.

*yes, it's not quite that straight forward, but you get the idea

You can't make calculations like that - the 1070 is not 30% cut of the 1080. 30% of the Cuda Cores were cut, but that's it's - same memory bus, ROPs, TMU, Multi-media Engine,etc.

1070 effective die size is not 70% of the 1080. The effective die size of the 1070 could be 90% that of the 1080, pure speculation on my part though, but it most certainly isn't 70%.

Also comparing to Polaris10 in performance/mm^2 isnt so easy because the 480 has ACEs and hardware scheduling.

Anyhow, about the 1060 performance - Nvidia won't be able to compete at the same price. Hopefully they undercut Polaris10 and we can all enjoy mainstream cards at a bargain.

Nvidia is quiet about the 1060 because it can't compete card against card.
Edited by MikeDuffy - 6/27/16 at 9:22pm
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