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post #781 of 2870
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

It just irks me honestly that AMD is even releasing a 4GB 480. The $200 card should have 8GB and then there would be no room for the haters to hate.

You have to remember that $50 to people on really low budgets that are saving for such cards (ie schoolkids etc) see that as a significant amount of money. Haters will hate anything and everything regardless.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Sigh, always half measures with this company, especially when they really need to be taking it to Nvidia as hard as they can.

They've provided both options so everyone is happy yet it's 'always half measures with this company'

They can't please people like you I guess.
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Originally Posted by tkenietz View Post

I specifically said I would choose the reference cooler if it is capable. I think it looks great. I said I didn't like the sapphire card that had leaked with the aluminum looking shroud

Ah ok, I have bad word absorption. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by KarathKasun View Post

There are 4gb and 8gb models because of the price range. That $30 could get you a crap mouse or headset, and at 1080p those things are more useful.

FTFY. But yes it is valid for people on a tight budget.

People are just nitpicking faults.

NO DVI - Haters

Different models 4GB/8GB to cater for different users - Haters

Sorry to burst people's bubbles but there's not really anything significant to hate on these cards so far.
Edited by Waitng4realGPU - 6/19/16 at 10:19pm
post #782 of 2870
Does any criticism qualify as hate? I agree the 4GB complaints are stupid, but I really think that not including that DVI slot in the reference model was a mistake. Not a deal-breaker, but a mistake. Not nothing.

Besides, we have not much idea how this card performs, except 6.3 in the Steam VR test, as well as the AotS results, both of which are about the same as a stock R9 290 (tested it with my own 290, which got a 6.2). I'm optimistic, but I'm worried this is going to be a disappointment. I really want this card to be great, but I'm worried it isn't. Fingers crossed that my worries are in vain.
post #783 of 2870
No, a crap mouse is $8.99. An OK mouse is ~$30.

Sadly, my CRAP logitech mouse works better for me than most gaming mice. thumb.gif
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post #784 of 2870
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50 bucks for 4GB of old GDDR5 is just silly in my opinion.

Just as silly as the $130 premium for the R9 390X over the R9 290X for a factory overclock and an extra 4GB of higher speed ram... But I suppose there is a need for fillers in each price segment rolleyes.gif

AMD wants to be aggressive with pricing. I would consider anything over $229 for the 8GB 480 to be overpriced just for the sake of tiering cards to specific price segments.
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post #785 of 2870
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No, a crap mouse is $8.99. An OK mouse is ~$30.

Sadly, my CRAP logitech mouse works better for me than most gaming mice. thumb.gif

You're right from your perspective I respect that. Where I'm from you can't even get a logitech 300S for $30.
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Originally Posted by Pyrotagonist View Post

Does any criticism qualify as hate?

Nah not really, Majin bought up haters so I ran with it.

They are really tiny negatives though honestly with this card, none are deal breakers.

We need to see performance and pricing and the rest of the so called issues will wash away if they are good value.
Edited by Waitng4realGPU - 6/19/16 at 11:02pm
post #786 of 2870
Been using my Corsair M60 since it came out and it's perfect.

And for the record, I'm one of the more bullish members regarding the 480 but I just hate that they gave people the opportunity to criticize the 4GB when they could easily have just gone with 8 and be done with it. Now, if the 8GB card really is $250 all we're gonna hear from the usual suspects is that the 480 is really a $250-$300 card and isn't any great value (we've already been hearing that, in fact). The $200 card will be ignored.

Case in point:
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Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

Just as silly as the $130 premium for the R9 390X over the R9 290X for a factory overclock and an extra 4GB of higher speed ram... But I suppose there is a need for fillers in each price segment rolleyes.gif

AMD wants to be aggressive with pricing. I would consider anything over $229 for the 8GB 480 to be overpriced just for the sake of tiering cards to specific price segments.

rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Been using my Corsair M60 since it came out and it's perfect.

And for the record, I'm one of the more bullish members regarding the 480 but I just hate that they gave people the opportunity to criticize the 4GB when they could easily have just gone with 8 and be done with it. Now, if the 8GB card really is $250 all we're gonna hear from the usual suspects is that the 480 is really a $250-$300 card and isn't any great value (we've already been hearing that, in fact). The $200 card will be ignored.

I have noticed you have an optimistic approach to the 480 series don't get me wrong. It would suck if they kinda 'milked' the 8GB versions for more than the ram upgrade is worth that's for sure.

let's hope the rumoured $200/$229 pricing is correct.
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Been using my Corsair M60 since it came out and it's perfect.
Ditched Razor finally and moved up to a Corsair M65 thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

And for the record, I'm one of the more bullish members regarding the 480 but I just hate that they gave people the opportunity to criticize the 4GB when they could easily have just gone with 8 and be done with it. Now, if the 8GB card really is $250 all we're gonna hear from the usual suspects is that the 480 is really a $250-$300 card and isn't any great value (we've already been hearing that, in fact). The $200 card will be ignored.

8GB of GDDR5 was ~$88 3 years ago. Which means that 4GB of GDDR5 was $44. We have had a about a 50% reduction in GDDR5 ram prices since then that means to add 4 extra GB today would cost roughly $22. Pricing the 8GB variant to be $30 more would equate to a 26.7% gross margin(Q2 2015 gross margins were 24.63% for comparison). Which is in line with what one should expect with an aggressively priced product.

Call me what you will but I will continue to call a spade a spade.
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let's hope the rumoured $200/$229 pricing is correct.
I have been saying that AMD needs to deliver fury like performance at or below $250 for over a month and have been adamant about the logic behind pricing the 8GB variety of the card at $229 since the RX 480 was announced.

My price predictions for the series:
RX 480 8GB $229
RX 480 4GB $199
RX 470 8GB $169
RX 470 4GB $139
RX 460 4GB $109
RX 460 2GB $79

Please don't confuse speculation as rumor.


Also, it will be silly to have a 4GB and 8GB version of the RX 370 if the 8GB version demanded a $50 premium.
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8GB of GDDR5 was ~$88 3 years ago. Which means that 4GB of GDDR5 was $44. We have had a about a 50% reduction in GDDR5 ram prices since then that means to add 4 extra GB today would cost roughly $22. Pricing the 8GB variant to be $30 more would equate to a 26.7% gross margin(Q2 2015 gross margins were 24.63% for comparison). Which is in line with what one should expect with an aggressively priced product.

Call me what you will but I will continue to call a spade a spade.
I have been saying that AMD needs to deliver fury like performance at or below $250 for over a month and have been adamant about the logic behind pricing the 8GB variety of the card at $229 since the RX 480 was announced.

My price predictions for the series:
RX 380 8GB $229
RX 380 4GB $199
RX 370 8GB $169
RX 370 4GB $139
RX 360 4GB $109
RX 360 2GB $79

Please don't confuse speculation as rumor.


Also, it will be silly to have a 4GB and 8GB version of the RX 370 if the 8GB version demanded a $50 premium.
Euh are you predicting naming change aswell biggrin.gif ?
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RX 480 appeals to the 1080p masses as well, and 4GB makes perfect sense there. I suppose there are still people on 1GB 6950s or 560Tis that are really looking for an upgrade, 4GB will sound plenty to them.
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