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Which lands it around stock 980 Ti numbers from what I can find @ 1080p. So... yeah. RX 480 with a what appears to be a decent, but relatively achievable OC, will land at stock ~1200mhz boost 980 Ti performance. Which also happens to be the same ballpark as the GTX 1070 @ stock.

~$200 card biting the heels of a $400 card.
Id like to see where you found that, stock 980Ti should still be ahead of OCed 980 (especially at 1440p)

and no, stock 1070 is ahead of stock 980Ti .. in pretty much everything - https://i.imgur.com/M5c4Sjp.jpg


OC 1070 trades blows with well OCed 980Ti .. if you call that "biting at the heels" ... redface.gif .. but its a solid 20-25% diff once both cards are OCed (also the 8GB 480 is not $200 .. the kinds of 480 cards that can do that OC while maintaning thermals and good noise will cost ~$280-300 and in reality from vendors likely $300+ and in Europe 300-350+ EUR)


we will see soon enough, but its clear to me that 1070 will outfperform 480 about the same way 980Ti outperforms 980 (except maybe in Ashes/Hitman rolleyes.gif) .. whether its worth the price difference is another matter, for 1080p definitely not, but for 1440p 165Hz I personally decided even 1070 is not enough, and ordered 1080 (still waiting for it, damn the shortages redface.gif )
Edited by ChevChelios - 6/20/16 at 6:06am
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Id like to see where you found that, stock 980Ti should still be ahead of OCed 980 (especially at 1440p)

and no, stock 1070 is ahead of stock 980Ti .. in pretty much everything - https://i.imgur.com/M5c4Sjp.jpg


OC 1070 trades blows with well OCed 980Ti .. if you call that "biting at the heels" ... redface.gif .. but its a solid 20-25% diff once both cards are OCed (also the 8GB 480 is not $200 .. the kinds of 480 cards that can do that OC while maintaning thermals and good noise will cost ~$280-300 and in reality from vendors likely $300+ and in Europe 300-350+ EUR)


we will see soon enough, but its clear to me that 1070 will outfperform 480 about the same way 980Ti outperforms 980 (except maybe in Ashes/Hitman rolleyes.gif) .. whether its worth the price difference is another matter, for 1080p definitely not, but for 1440p 165Hz I personally decided even 1070 is not enough, and ordered 1080 (still waiting for it, damn the shortages redface.gif )

Using TPU benchmark results @ 1080. OC'd 980 (1500-1550mhz in game boosting) is about equal to a bone stock 980 Ti.

If GCN gaining more per clock than Maxwell is still true, the OC'd RX 480 @ 1500 will be even faster than the 980 @ 1500.
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ok fair enough


but keep in mind reference 980 is 1216Mhz (not 1266)

GCN/Polaris superior rolleyes.gif scaling rolleyes.gif may or may not bridge that gap
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Yeah, GCN gets more from overclocking because the clocks of EVERYTHING go up. Probably also why the cards that are out now OC less.

They dont OC less, people just compare it wrong against an Nvidia card.

Example.
They look at GPUZ and see the base clock, they then start to overclock and look at max clock reported on the monitor tab.
Reference 980ti has 1075mhz base clock but boost to around 1279mhz max.. then you set 107% power target and it boost to around 1325mhz Thats all stock and nothing overclocked yet.
My own 980ti has a base clock of 1279mhz and boost to 1392mhz, with power to 107% it boost to 1402mhz, all stock.
No Nvidia cards dont have massive OC headroom, they have boost 2.0 (and now 3.0) that people cant seem to notice rolleyes.gif
They claim 25% OC's with ease but i am not seeing them if i consider boost clocks.

AMD cards arent magical overclocking cards either but its not as bad as people make it out to be.
A 290x is 1000mhz base clock, you can OC them to around 1200mhz, thats 20%
a stock 7970 is 1000mhz, you can OC them over 1200mhz, thats 20%
Lower end AMD cards overclock even more, i hve a 270x at 1370mhz wheee.gif

The only overclocking turds are Fury(x)

This wierd "Nvidia is OC king" and "AMD cards cant overclock" really needs to stop.
Both overclock basicly just as crap/good.
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Yeah, GCN gets more from overclocking because the clocks of EVERYTHING go up. Probably also why the cards that are out now OC less.

What does this even mean......the clocks of everything go up?
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What does this even mean......the clocks of everything go up?

When you overclock your card it also overclocks your monitor,hdd,ram.cpu,psu,mouse ect

didn't you know?
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When you overclock you're card it also overclocks your monitor,hdd,ram.cpu,psu,mouse ect

didn't you know?

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What does this even mean......the clocks of everything go up?
All GPU's are gaining higher clock speeds thanks to the magic of FinFET.
It's how Paxwell got to where it is biggrin.gif
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What does this even mean......the clocks of everything go up?

If you ever edit a Maxwell BIOS it has static frequencies for the cache, command dispatch engines, shader xbar and so forth. These do not change when you overclock in software. They are usually around the stock "boost" speed or base speed in my experience. Some are even lower than that. Ther "core" clock speed you change in MSI AB or any other software is only the speed of the ROPs and shader cores.

AFAIK, GNC has a single clock domain for those components of the chip. Everything runs at the "core" speed. Overclocking gets a better percentage return on GCN because of it.
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If you ever edit a Maxwell BIOS it has static frequencies for the cache, command dispatch engines, shader xbar and so forth. These do not change when you overclock in software. They are usually around the stock "boost" speed or base speed in my experience. Some are even lower than that.

AFAIK, GNC has a single clock domain for those components of the chip. Everything runs at the "core" speed. Overclocking gets a better percentage return on GCN because of it.

Interesting, thanks for answering my question.

Not that I don't believe you but it would be nice if someone would confirm this or you could with a link maybe?
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