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I kinda find it funny that people on here are always looking for the latest and greatest tech, then complain because something doesn't support almost 2 decade old tech.
The issue is that dual-link DVI didn't have a technologically superior sucessor until DP 1.3, and as a result monitors kept the old DVI ports for way too long.
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I kinda find it funny that people on here are always looking for the latest and greatest tech, then complain because something doesn't support almost 2 decade old tech.
The issue is that dual-link DVI didn't have a technologically superior sucessor until DP 1.3, and as a result monitors kept the old DVI ports for way too long.

1.2.

1.3 and 1.4 are new. I know what you meant, just clarifying for others.
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I kinda find it funny that people on here are always looking for the latest and greatest tech, then complain because something doesn't support almost 2 decade old tech.

Its almost as if there's different people in this forum who have different opinions and that OCN isn't a hivemind!

The fan on the 1080, like other "blower" types of fans, have low airflow but very good static pressure. That's why the fins in the heatsink assembly of "blower" GPUs are much closer together than ones designed for axial fan use. The DVI port in the rear, at most, probably is causing the 1080 to run 1 degree centigrade hotter. This is a bigger nit pick than the last few pages of me kicking up a stink about DVI.

There's more. Who is going to give a damn that the 480's PCI bracket "looks better"?. Even in a windowed case you won't be able to see that section of the card. Come on, you can offer a better argument than that.

Don't even get me started on the "its rubbish because its old" argument. Its funny how people will get sooooooooooooooooo upset about the removal of the 3.5mm headphone jack, which has been in use since the 1960s, but all of a sudden DVI is terrible because its old.
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Its almost as if there's different people in this forum who have different opinions and that OCN isn't a hivemind!

The fan on the 1080, like other "blower" types of fans, have low airflow but very good static pressure. That's why the fins in the heatsink assembly of "blower" GPUs are much closer together than ones designed for axial fan use. The DVI port in the rear, at most, probably is causing the 1080 to run 1 degree centigrade hotter. This is a bigger nit pick than the last few pages of me kicking up a stink about DVI.

There's more. Who is going to give a damn that the 480's PCI bracket "looks better"?. Even in a windowed case you won't be able to see that section of the card. Come on, you can offer a better argument than that.

Don't even get me started on the "its rubbish because its old" argument. Its funny how people will get sooooooooooooooooo upset about the removal of the 3.5mm headphone jack, which has been in use since the 1960s, but all of a sudden DVI is terrible because its old.
The 3.5mm TRS jack has not been superseded by anything better, and it's as good as it's going to get. It's small, rugged, reliable. The nature of the content it delivers doesn't change, so the connector doesn't need to change.

DVI on the otherhand has been superseded by both HDMI and DP. There are speed and throughput limitations with the DVI connector, and HDMI and DP rectify those issues.
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Its almost as if there's different people in this forum who have different opinions and that OCN isn't a hivemind!

The fan on the 1080, like other "blower" types of fans, have low airflow but very good static pressure. That's why the fins in the heatsink assembly of "blower" GPUs are much closer together than ones designed for axial fan use. The DVI port in the rear, at most, probably is causing the 1080 to run 1 degree centigrade hotter. This is a bigger nit pick than the last few pages of me kicking up a stink about DVI.

There's more. Who is going to give a damn that the 480's PCI bracket "looks better"?. Even in a windowed case you won't be able to see that section of the card. Come on, you can offer a better argument than that.

Don't even get me started on the "its rubbish because its old" argument. Its funny how people will get sooooooooooooooooo upset about the removal of the 3.5mm headphone jack, which has been in use since the 1960s, but all of a sudden DVI is terrible because its old.

1 degree hotter equals lower overclock potential biggrin.gif

The looks of the rear bracket are very significant when plugging in your cable. It could be devastating to be met with something ugly in that scenario.

I couldn't offer any better argument than that I swear, I tried. smile.gif

Btw what's the other option for a 3.5mm headphone jack?
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Its almost as if there's different people in this forum who have different opinions and that OCN isn't a hivemind!

The fan on the 1080, like other "blower" types of fans, have low airflow but very good static pressure. That's why the fins in the heatsink assembly of "blower" GPUs are much closer together than ones designed for axial fan use. The DVI port in the rear, at most, probably is causing the 1080 to run 1 degree centigrade hotter. This is a bigger nit pick than the last few pages of me kicking up a stink about DVI.

There's more. Who is going to give a damn that the 480's PCI bracket "looks better"?. Even in a windowed case you won't be able to see that section of the card. Come on, you can offer a better argument than that.

Don't even get me started on the "its rubbish because its old" argument. Its funny how people will get sooooooooooooooooo upset about the removal of the 3.5mm headphone jack, which has been in use since the 1960s, but all of a sudden DVI is terrible because its old.

Because there is no replacement of 3.5mm? Duh haha. Toslink/hdmi are digital, coax (only some high ends cards even have that, and 3.5mm are analog. No replacement for either of those. However there is TWO replacements for DVI, HDMI and DP. So yea you can remove dvi you can't remove 3.5mm. There goes that argument, not starting a war just saying haha.

As far as blower style fans, if they were indeed high static pressure and efficient they wouldnt run so hot. And guess what, static pressure doesnt matter when a fan is blowing air sideways. Theres no replacement for displacement aka a bigger heatsink. If static pressure was so efficient wed all be using intel stock coolers lol.

As far as dvi blocking airflow? It is a totally valid reason, if you block half of the heatsink static pressure is irrelevant as it has no where to go. And btw there are TONS of cases where you can actually see the card. Core x9, core x5, anything where the mobo tray is horizontal. The dvi port is hideous for some.
    
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1 degree hotter equals lower overclock potential biggrin.gif

The looks of the rear bracket are very significant when plugging in your cable. It could be devastating to be met with something ugly in that scenario.

I couldn't offer any better argument than that I swear, I tried. smile.gif

Btw what's the other option for a 3.5mm headphone jack?

There isn't one 3.5mm is the standard for pretty much every single headphone in the world, that and 6.25mm
    
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As far as blower style fans, if they were indeed high static pressure and efficient they wouldnt run so hot. And guess what, static pressure doesnt matter when a fan is blowing air sideways. Theres no replacement for displacement aka a bigger heatsink. If static pressure was so efficient wed all be using intel stock coolers lol.

As far as dvi blocking airflow? It is a totally valid reason, if you block half of the heatsink static pressure is irrelevant as it has no where to go. And btw there are TONS of cases where you can actually see the card. Core x9, core x5, anything where the mobo tray is horizontal. The dvi port is hideous for some.
You have a big misunderstanding of static pressure. It's the maximum air pressure the fan can generate with the air-discharge blocked. Static air pressure is equivalent to water pressure in a hose. The higher your pressure, the more air you can force through a given opening.

Blower cards use compact heatsinks with tightly packed fins, because centrifugal blowers are generally able to more easily generate higher air pressures than axial fans. The higher pressure allows them to efficiently push air through the tightly packed fins, at the expense of more noise. With enough pressure, the discharge vent of your GPU could be the side of a pencil tip and you could still adequately cool the card.

OEMs like the blower cards because they easily fit within two slots, don't need as much metal (so they're cheap) and generally exhaust air outside the case. The huge AIB cards don't really need to follow those same limitations since they cost more, and are generally targeted at enthusiasts. This allows them to use huge oversized heatsinks to get the necessary surface area with wider-spaced fins, which lets them use slow spinning low pressure axial fans.
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You have a big misunderstanding of static pressure. It's the maximum air pressure the fan can generate with the air-discharge blocked. Static air pressure is equivalent to water pressure in a hose. The higher your pressure, the more air you can force through a given opening.

Blower cards use compact heatsinks with tightly packed fins, because centrifugal blowers are generally able to more easily generate higher air pressures than axial fans. The higher pressure allows them to efficiently push air through the tightly packed fins, at the expense of more noise. With enough pressure, the discharge vent of your GPU could be the side of a pencil tip and you could still adequately cool the card.

OEMs like the blower cards because they easily fit within two slots, don't need as much metal (so they're cheap) and generally exhaust air outside the case. The huge AIB cards don't really need to follow those same limitations since they cost more, and are generally targeted at enthusiasts. This allows them to use huge oversized heatsinks to get the necessary surface area with wider-spaced fins, which lets them use slow spinning low pressure axial fans.

Nope sorry you lost your credibility when you whined about 3.5mm lol.

I do agree that they def need more static pressure but doesnt mean that they actually create it unless someone actually tested it. And again if the dvi port blocks half the heatsink the static pressure isnt going to matter in the least.
    
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Looks like I won't be getting the reference editions. No dual link dvi, no buy.
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