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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

Sorry, but I am sticking with taking 30 seconds to loosen two screws and take it off. While it will be absolutely fine laying it on it's back, the OP has a lot of concern. To me, it is concern that is worth 30 seconds with a screwdriver in hand.

I agree. I never transport my systems with the coolers on. The farthest I'll go is across the house, gingerly. It's just too expensive to risk not taking those 30 seconds to remove.
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I don't see the point in being rude. But some people are just like that I guess. There's also no point in being condescending. I know how to read and follow directions. But that doesn't replace experience. And how do I gain experience if I don't try? I built my previous PC without an issue. I wasn't prepared for the force required to lock down the CPU latching mechanism in this build, and somehow something went wrong. It's a poor system - AMD has it right - pins on the CPU.

I don't believe he was trying to be rude, fwiw.

For what it's worh, i really don't think the original bent pins are a fault or yours, especially since you took the time to look at how the cpu is supposed to be installed. Really, both AMD and Intel CPU's are easy to install. When I build my rig, the creaking and scary sounding noises from latching the cpu down got me worried (as I came from an AMD rig), but I have since removed my CPU, oh, i'd say between 4-6 times. It's normal to require some force. Don't ask me why, as I don't know lol.

I think your marks on the CPU are from the latch too, I'm pretty sure mine has some. I'd check, but, that's a pain in the ass.

It would be worth your time to just take the cooler off, especially if you're driving across town on crappy roads.. I mean, these things are heavy, even without the fans on them. Here are two of mine for reference:

Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme:


(Image taken from the product page


Prolimatech Genesis Black Edition:


(Image taken from the product page)

Those things aren't small, and they aren't light. The silver arrow is approximately the size of your D15. I wouldn't take the risk and move the computer with the cooler installed.
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I agree. I never transport my systems with the coolers on. The farthest I'll go is across the house, gingerly. It's just too expensive to risk not taking those 30 seconds to remove.
I don't believe he was trying to be rude, fwiw.

For what it's worh, i really don't think the original bent pins are a fault or yours, especially since you took the time to look at how the cpu is supposed to be installed. Really, both AMD and Intel CPU's are easy to install. When I build my rig, the creaking and scary sounding noises from latching the cpu down got me worried (as I came from an AMD rig), but I have since removed my CPU, oh, i'd say between 4-6 times. It's normal to require some force. Don't ask me why, as I don't know lol.

I think your marks on the CPU are from the latch too, I'm pretty sure mine has some. I'd check, but, that's a pain in the ass.

It would be worth your time to just take the cooler off, especially if you're driving across town on crappy roads.. I mean, these things are heavy, even without the fans on them. Here are two of mine for reference:

Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme:


(Image taken from the product page


Prolimatech Genesis Black Edition:


(Image taken from the product page)
Those things aren't small, and they aren't light. The silver arrow is approximately the size of your D15. I wouldn't take the risk and move the computer with the cooler installed.
There is no problem transporting assembled systems, but they do require care and gentle handling. Many companies pre-assemble systems with big coolers and ship them commercially, and sometimes they get damaged in shipment. But we all know parcel handlers are not gentle with our parcels.
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I hate to point out the obvious.....but the D15 is removed with two easily accessible screws. Two screws. Easily accessible.

I second removing the NH-D15. If it is like my NH-D14 you just have to remove the inner fan to get at the screws. I just read you are moving it yourself. You should be fine then as I am sure you will be handling it gingerly. Just lay it on its side while you are driving.
Edited by chrisjames61 - 6/18/16 at 3:56pm
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Get some antistatic foam and stuff it between the case and the cooler (also do the GPU cards), then keep the case on its side while transporting.
     
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post #15 of 45
Just lay it flat. You won't have any issues.
post #16 of 45
I keep cooler above or below motherboard when transporting. The potential for damage from weight of cooler on top of CPU is less then the potential for leverage of cooler hanging off to the side in a vertical CPU is 30-35mm square compared to 160+mm of leverage in cooler height .. something like 12-16 times the load is possible from this leverage.

Keep in mind cooler damage to CPU is caused by shock .. everything is moving and comes to a sudden stop. At the moment it stops moving the cooler's weight on CPU becomes many times higher than normal. It's not the fall that does the damage, it's the sudden stop at the end of the fall. biggrin.gif
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I do appreciate the advice.

Well I dropped off the parts yesterday at my local PC shop. I called them back today to check on the status, and they had just finished it but they are planning on running it overnight to check for heat stability. I'm doing the rest of the build (video card, hard drives, additional fans, other components) - he just put on the CPU and the cooler and did the basic wiring in order to test it all out.

Here's the thing - he said he was very concerned with the weight of the D15 cooler, and he insisted that the cooler is no better than the stock cooler. He said he used an electric screwdriver to mount it as tight as possible. This has me very worried because on another forum (can't remember where now) I had read that a guy cracked his motherboard and then tried to blame it on the D15 cooler, when it turned out he used a power screwdriver which everyone else said in the thread you should never do. So I don't know what to think. Is it bad that he used a power screwdriver? I had read that it's only necessary to hand-tighten the 4 screws for the backplate. Even the directions with the cooler said to tighten until the screws stop. It even comes with it's own extra-long screwdriver for the 2 center screws. It doesn't say anything about using an electric screwdriver. Could this guy have damaged the motherboard or CPU by applying too much force? I know some people say you can't overtighten the D15, but it seems an electric screwdriver is overkill.

He also says the weight will damage the motherboard over time. I'm not convinced he knows what he's talking about, but I'm certainly not an expert.
post #18 of 45
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Here's the thing - he said he was very concerned with the weight of the D15 cooler, and he insisted that the cooler is no better than the stock cooler. He said he used an electric screwdriver to mount it as tight as possible. This has me very worried because on another forum (can't remember where now) I had read that a guy cracked his motherboard and then tried to blame it on the D15 cooler, when it turned out he used a power screwdriver which everyone else said in the thread you should never do. So I don't know what to think. Is it bad that he used a power screwdriver? I had read that it's only necessary to hand-tighten the 4 screws for the backplate. Even the directions with the cooler said to tighten until the screws stop. It even comes with it's own extra-long screwdriver for the 2 center screws. It doesn't say anything about using an electric screwdriver. Could this guy have damaged the motherboard or CPU by applying too much force? I know some people say you can't overtighten the D15, but it seems an electric screwdriver is overkill.

He also says the weight will damage the motherboard over time. I'm not convinced he knows what he's talking about, but I'm certainly not an expert.

I am going to give you a piece of advice - do not ever let this person touch your PC again. They have absolutely no clue what they are doing. Everything here is wrong, and I mean everything:

1. Unless you are using a paper PCB from 1999, there is no concern with the weight of the D15
2. The D15 is obviously night and day better than the stock cooler in every way.
3. You would have to be a chimp with a learning disability to even consider using an electric tool to mount a D15.
4. Said chimp with a learning disability knows that D15 have stops to keep you from overtightening....and that he would need to call in his gorilla buddy to overtighten and strip the mounting system.
5. If you are bringing your PC to someone who needs to look at the manual to install a D15 (meaning they aren't familiar with Noctua)....there is something very, very wrong.

Had that been said to me (not that I let anyone touch my builds), I would have gone straight there, picked up the PC, not paid and would have told them I would contact them after I assessed for damages. I would get the PC out of there ASAP.

Be thankful you didn't give him a Cryorig R1 with a floating mount.....i could only imagine what he would have done to that and the MB.
Edited by ciarlatano - 6/19/16 at 2:11pm
post #19 of 45
I was going to elaborate, but ciarlatano has already said it all. thumb.gif
post #20 of 45
Just remove the cooler for transport if you are worried.
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