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Well I just picked the PC up from the shop and carefully drove it home horizontally. The level of incompetence from this shop is beyond words.

Again he told me at the shop that next time I should buy the stock cooler! I told him that I checked online today and the cooler is nickel-plated copper, and he shook his head and said, "well it looks like steel to me". doh.gif

I haven't had a chance yet to take a good look at it, but I can see through the window that he put the cooler on upside down! doh.gif I know it shouldn't make any difference, but still, it's obvious the brand name is etched into the front of the cooler - twice!

He had a 50% chance of getting it right, even if he didn't bother to look at the brand name imprinted onto the front, and he still got it wrong.
Edited by miles17 - 6/20/16 at 9:18am
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I don't see the point in being rude. But some people are just like that I guess. There's also no point in being condescending. I know how to read and follow directions. But that doesn't replace experience. And how do I gain experience if I don't try? I built my previous PC without an issue. I wasn't prepared for the force required to lock down the CPU latching mechanism in this build, and somehow something went wrong. It's a poor system - AMD has it right - pins on the CPU.

That is completely untrue. You have to do it completely wrong to bend anything on the motherboard. If you required too much force to lock the latch you probably positioned the cpu wrong and thus the damage was done.

On the other hand the AMD system is miles worse and much more delicate. Heck with Intel you only have to remove the socket protector when you want to install the cpu, and place it again when you remove it for the whole system to be safe. With AMD? You need to handle the cpu with care all the way if you don't want to end up having bent pins.

In any case, you are asking for somebody else to mount your computer and then you plan to risk transporting it with one of the heaviest cpu coolers there are on a very bad road. It is your computer, but you are paying for somebody to do something right and then you are transporting it the wrong way. You should hire somebody to mount your computer on-site (IE your house) if you want to do it properly.
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That is completely untrue. You have to do it completely wrong to bend anything on the motherboard. If you required too much force to lock the latch you probably positioned the cpu wrong and thus the damage was done.

On the other hand the AMD system is miles worse and much more delicate. Heck with Intel you only have to remove the socket protector when you want to install the cpu, and place it again when you remove it for the whole system to be safe. With AMD? You need to handle the cpu with care all the way if you don't want to end up having bent pins.

In any case, you are asking for somebody else to mount your computer and then you plan to risk transporting it with one of the heaviest cpu coolers there are on a very bad road. It is your computer, but you are paying for somebody to do something right and then you are transporting it the wrong way. You should hire somebody to mount your computer on-site (IE your house) if you want to do it properly.

What makes you think I have that kind of service available to me in my small town? And if it was available it would cost much more than what it cost to bring it in and have it done.

And from what I've seen, this shop doesn't know their *** from their elbow anyways.

Several people have said in here that it should be fine driving it home horizontally, as long as I am careful, which I was. I packed it back in it's box, gently laid it down, and drove extra slow on the best route I could coming home. It was maybe a 20-25 minute drive home. The roads aren't that bad. There's just a lot of cracks and manholes you have to watch for, and lots of smaller bumps. So I took it slow.
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What makes you think I have that kind of service available to me in my small town? And if it was available it would cost much more than what it cost to bring it in and have it done.

And from what I've seen, this shop doesn't know their *** from their elbow anyways.

Several people have said in here that it should be fine driving it home horizontally, as long as I am careful, which I was. I packed it back in it's box, gently laid it down, and drove extra slow on the best route I could coming home. It was maybe a 20-25 minute drive home. The roads aren't that bad. There's just a lot of cracks and manholes you have to watch for, and lots of smaller bumps. So I took it slow.

Have you had a chance to inspect everything? If so, how is it?
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Have you had a chance to inspect everything? If so, how is it?

Thanks for asking. Well I just got through looking it over and I'm preparing to put the rest of the components in and finish the wiring.

They mounted the cooler upside-down so the Noctua logo is upside-down (no biggie, but really?).

None of the wiring has been neatened up, but I guess I'd prefer it that way anyways while I'm still working on it.

More worrying - I found one of the 9 motherboard screws rolling around in the box. Sure enough, they forgot to put the upper-left screw in the motherboard, so there's no screw there in the corner. I'm currently looking for a magnetized screwdriver so I can drop the screw in there and tighten it down - I've dropped the screw twice in there already so I need a magnetized screwdriver to hold onto the screw as I lower it into the hole. There's of course very little room in that corner now that the cooler is mounted.

I don't see any obvious damage. I'd like to leave it alone if it's working okay. You know the saying - don't fix it if it ain't broken. But it does make me a tad nervous seeing how sloppy they were with this. I'm praying they didn't overdo the paste. I did mention to them that they only needed a small bead of the Noctua paste. The cap was lose and he did mention it at the shop so I think they used the Noctua paste - at least it's non-conductive if they used too much.
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On this same topic of the cooler, do you guys think it's worth the gain to add the second Noctua fan? I was planing on putting it on, and the memory and case I have give me plenty of room for it, but I'm just wondering f the added weight of the 2nd fan is worth the drop in temperature? My apartment does get very warm in the summer even with air conditioning (sometimes over 90 easily) being I'm up in the 3rd floor which is why I went with the D15. I'm guessing the weight of the 2nd fan should be ok but I just wanted to get some opinions. Reviews do seem to mention a drop of a few extra degrees with that 2nd fan mounted, but I just don't know if those few degrees are worth the extra weight?
Edited by miles17 - 6/20/16 at 11:33am
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On this same topic of the cooler, do you guys think it's worth the gain to add the second Noctua fan? I was planing on putting it on, and the memory and case I have give me plenty of room for it, but I'm just wondering f the added weight of the 2nd fan is worth the drop in temperature? My apartment does get very warm in the summer even with air conditioning (sometimes over 90 easily) being I'm up in the 3rd floor which is why I went with the D15. I'm guessing the weight of the 2nd fan should be ok but I just wanted to get some opinions. Reviews do seem to mention a drop of a few extra degrees with that 2nd fan mounted, but I just don't know if those few degrees are worth the extra weight?
Put the second fan on. With high ambient temps, you'll want all the help you can get. It'll also help with noise levels in lower load conditions, as they should be able to run slower to maintain temperatures. I'm assuming under continuous load, they'll max out & the noise will be a little higher, but that's when you'll want that bit of extra performance anyway. I'm running my cooler with 2x140mm fans on a narrow ATX board (doesn't use 3 rightmost standoffs), & the motherboard is fine. Besides, you said it made it home fine with it installed. The added weight from the fans won't approach the loads it saw during the drive, or possibly even the install from that questionable shop.
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I didn't realize until just now that they actually do make a D15s which uses a single fan (though you can add a second fan anyways). Interesting. I might have gone with that if I knew about it, but I guess it doesn't matter since I still have enough clearance for my memory and the first PCI-e slot. I was limited in RAM choice though. I might have gone with my first choice in RAM (G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series) if that second fan wasn't in the way. Oh well. I guess that 2nd fan will help a few extra degrees.
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Putting the fan splitter cable on the motherboard and mounting the 2nd fan, I just realized they bent a couple cooler fins also. What clods! I feel I should leave a poor review on YELP to warn others, but with so many customers these days getting sued for leaving negative reviews on YELP, I'd be afraid to.
Edited by miles17 - 6/20/16 at 12:44pm
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Thanks for asking. Well I just got through looking it over and I'm preparing to put the rest of the components in and finish the wiring.

They mounted the cooler upside-down so the Noctua logo is upside-down (no biggie, but really?).

None of the wiring has been neatened up, but I guess I'd prefer it that way anyways while I'm still working on it.

More worrying - I found one of the 9 motherboard screws rolling around in the box. Sure enough, they forgot to put the upper-left screw in the motherboard, so there's no screw there in the corner. I'm currently looking for a magnetized screwdriver so I can drop the screw in there and tighten it down - I've dropped the screw twice in there already so I need a magnetized screwdriver to hold onto the screw as I lower it into the hole. There's of course very little room in that corner now that the cooler is mounted.

I don't see any obvious damage. I'd like to leave it alone if it's working okay. You know the saying - don't fix it if it ain't broken. But it does make me a tad nervous seeing how sloppy they were with this. I'm praying they didn't overdo the paste. I did mention to them that they only needed a small bead of the Noctua paste. The cap was lose and he did mention it at the shop so I think they used the Noctua paste - at least it's non-conductive if they used too much.
You say the Noctua logo is upside down? Which side of cooler is farther from center of CPU? The short side should be toward the PCIe socket.
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