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Yeah something like that is what I was thinking, utilizing some high quality connectors and a high quality switch (telcom high impedance rated contacts) since the OP stressed quality.


not like gold contacts will increase audio quality, that's BS. I'm talking about clean crisp making and breaking from a switch designed for high impedance operation.

The connections would be obvious to some people on here, I can make a diagram if you decide to go this route and need guidance, like I said before I'd also spec out some nice jacks and a switch too.
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Yeah something like that is what I was thinking, utilizing some high quality connectors and a high quality switch (telcom high impedance rated contacts) since the OP stressed quality.


not like gold contacts will increase audio quality, that's BS. I'm talking about clean crisp making and breaking from a switch designed for high impedance operation.

The connections would be obvious to some people on here, I can make a diagram if you decide to go this route and need guidance, like I said before I'd also spec out some nice jacks and a switch too.

Well gold contacts might not improve audio quality, but they can increase durability is some cases. Whether it matters is debatable.

If they're of a similar quality at a similar price, I'd probably go go for the gold plated ones, if they're much more expensive, its probably not worth it,
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Yeah something like that is what I was thinking, utilizing some high quality connectors and a high quality switch (telcom high impedance rated contacts) since the OP stressed quality.


not like gold contacts will increase audio quality, that's BS. I'm talking about clean crisp making and breaking from a switch designed for high impedance operation.

The connections would be obvious to some people on here, I can make a diagram if you decide to go this route and need guidance, like I said before I'd also spec out some nice jacks and a switch too.
Some audiophiles might fall for stupid crap like that, but they aren't the real audiophiles are they wink.gif? Gold connectors and contacts are mainly for preventing corrosion, basically make the equipment potentially last longer. Of course, it is used to sell products, but mainly I see regular consumers falling for stuff like that rather than audiophiles.
 
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Well gold contacts might not improve audio quality, but they can increase durability is some cases. Whether it matters is debatable.

If they're of a similar quality at a similar price, I'd probably go go for the gold plated ones, if they're much more expensive, its probably not worth it,

Yeah I didn't specifically mean get gold ones I just meant buy a real brand, like amphenol or something not some generic trash. If you're only building one of these with 3 jacks and 1 switch it ain't a big deal if the good ones are 3 bucks rather than 25 cents. yeah in that case they'd be a "lot" more but ending up being a couple bucks total different... if that's a problem then this is the wrong hobby lol.
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Some audiophiles might fall for stupid crap like that, but they aren't the real audiophiles are they wink.gif? Gold connectors and contacts are mainly for preventing corrosion, basically make the equipment potentially last longer. Of course, it is used to sell products, but mainly I see regular consumers falling for stuff like that rather than audiophiles.

agreed. I'd say most people who consider themselves audiophiles aren't real audiophiles haha.

In this app, the gold (or other non chinese metal) contacts would be most beneficial to avoiding scratchyness when plugging or switching since the speaker input is pretty high impedance relatively at least.

ever heard of the wattgate 381? google it and look at reviews on parts express or amazon
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get ready to duck for cover when I get slammed...

Audiophile equipment is the biggest bogus waste of money that there is, and audiophiles are the easiest people to convince to buy your overpriced crap.

There is good quality stuff, then there is unnecessarily complicated stuff that has "tubes" or "gold plated" pfffft. I'm an electrical engineer not some big money must mean big good fanboy.

Was there a particular reason why the thing I mentioned about using a splitter and leaving both plugged in and just shutting off the speakers when the headphones are in use?

you could wire something up with a good quality switch and the appropriate jacks. Are you willing to make your own? can you solder? I can pick out a switch that will blow away the crap that companies put in their consumer products. All they care about is the bottom line

I'm afraid that would also mean having to manually get up and walk up to the speakers every time. I don't wanna sound lazy but that is kind of inconvenient. Plus I'd be doing it every day and I'd like to avoid wear on my speaker switch if at all possible. I do like the idea of making my own high quality switch. I'd be glad to do so. Yes indeed I can solder. If you know the components that I'd need to use to build a high quality switch, I'd love to see them. I don't think I'd know the difference between normal parts for such a switch, and high quality parts.

I would just buy one, but really nobody seems to make one. I was expecting to be able to find something in the $35-$50 range, but no such luck. All you can seem to find out in the wild is 100 different variants of the $20 cheapies. All straight outta china I'm sure.
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if I were building one, these are the jacks and switch I would use.

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cui-inc/SJ1-3513/CP1-3513-ND/738683

no gold plated nonsense, but from what I can tell the build quality looks really nice. $1.71 x3

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/te-connectivity-alcoswitch-switches/MTA206N/450-1304-ND/724914

at $12.58 it's a bit more money than a crappy chinese one that will fall apart, but this bad boy is rated for 80,000 cycles and TE connectivity makes good stuff.

so 17.71 plus shipping plus idk whether you're the type of person who has plenty of 20-24 gauge wire laying around... you could use the wires from inside a cat5 cable or use some stranded 22 or 20 gauge. whatever works.

I'd tie the grounds together at the output jack, then just wire each input left and right to opposite sides of the switch and the output to the middle. I can draw a picture if necessary.

I'm sure the cheap junk parts most people use would suffice, but then you're left with the same chinese thing you can buy.
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Thanks I'll use both of those. I did notice a couple of things on the first link however. It says "manufacturer lead time: 10 weeks". I hope that doesn't mean its 10 weeks before it ships lol.

20 gauge wire I'll just buy at Lowes.

Lastly, do you have a recommendation for a small metal box to mount these in? I may go with something like these:


http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/490/project-boxes/1.html
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Lastly, do you have a recommendation for a small metal box to mount these in? I may go with something like these:


http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/490/project-boxes/1.html

Something like this one would be fine:
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/1590-bbk/black-aluminum-enclosure-111-x-60-x-31mm/1.html

Or maybe something like this if you don't mind ordering from china, its just a project box after all.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-YTE-010-69-8-23-6-110-Aluminum-Extruded-project-enclosure-box-electron-case-for/32576279578.html
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Thanks I'll use both of those. I did notice a couple of things on the first link however. It says "manufacturer lead time: 10 weeks". I hope that doesn't mean its 10 weeks before it ships lol.

20 gauge wire I'll just buy at Lowes.

Lastly, do you have a recommendation for a small metal box to mount these in? I may go with something like these:


http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/490/project-boxes/1.html



That's if you order more than they have in stock. They have plenty in stock that ship right away. I use digikey for a lot of my business purchases so I know how it all works haha. digikey is legit. bigger companies use them more than hobbyists so everything is very professional.

My recommendations for the box would be:

maybe 2" x 3.5" ish 3/4" thick

I would glue some fishing weights or at least some big washers to the inside of the bottom lid so it doesn't feel like a POS and slide all over the desk, and put some high friction rubber something on the bottom.

There's nothing worse than a device that's so light that the stupid wires going to it make it slide all over the place and not sit flat.
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