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How does this review recommend the 6350? The i3 6100 comes within spitting distance in multi core and crushes it in single core and being faster in gaming 9 times outta 10? Im sorry but this is kinda a joke of a review and considering the i3 6100 also uses less power in every scenario i cant take this seriously. Either wait for Zen, or buy an Intel CPU right now because a 6350 is on a dead in the water platform and just all around isnt as good a performer for the price.
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It's a space heater with added value.
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How does this review recommend the 6350? The i3 6100 comes within spitting distance in multi core and crushes it in single core and being faster in gaming 9 times outta 10? Im sorry but this is kinda a joke of a review and considering the i3 6100 also uses less power in every scenario i cant take this seriously. Either wait for Zen, or buy an Intel CPU right now because a 6350 is on a dead in the water platform and just all around isnt as good a performer for the price.

Actually the better processor is a Althon x4 845 for it's price range, overclocking it to 4.2ghz also reaps some huge benefits. I know you can't OC it any higher but you don't need a lot of power run it and get it to it's peak point. For 66$ it's pretty hard to beat. It's about 40% more IPC than it's Bulldozer cores.
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Actually the better processor is a Althon x4 845 for it's price range, overclocking it to 4.2ghz also reaps some huge benefits. I know you can't OC it any higher but you don't need a lot of power run it and get it to it's peak point. For 66$ it's pretty hard to beat. It's about 40% more IPC than it's Bulldozer cores.

While price wise to the amount of performance the 845 is better but its also 1/2 the price XP the 6350 and 6100 are within 10$ of each other and that was the point of the review. The 845 is in another price bracket and is going against the Pentium which is a whole other story. The 6100 vs the 6350 the 6100 is hands down better in every way, the 845 vs the Pentium IMO is pretty easy too with the 2 more Integer cores making the 845 a better deal vs the Pentium. The review from the beginning was leaning to the 6350 when its pretty obvious to me at least that the 6100 is the better option at the 120$ price point. The 6100 offers a longer upgrade path, better per core performance, and while the socket may not last you have more upgrade options over the life of the system with far better performance.
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While price wise to the amount of performance the 845 is better but its also 1/2 the price XP the 6350 and 6100 are within 10$ of each other and that was the point of the review. The 845 is in another price bracket and is going against the Pentium which is a whole other story. The 6100 vs the 6350 the 6100 is hands down better in every way, the 845 vs the Pentium IMO is pretty easy too with the 2 more Integer cores making the 845 a better deal vs the Pentium. The review from the beginning was leaning to the 6350 when its pretty obvious to me at least that the 6100 is the better option at the 120$ price point. The 6100 offers a longer upgrade path, better per core performance, and while the socket may not last you have more upgrade options over the life of the system with far better performance.

Online deals people can get an FX-8XXX for about 120$
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Maybe with Polaris we will finally get APUs with more than 512 SPs.
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How does this review recommend the 6350? The i3 6100 comes within spitting distance in multi core and crushes it in single core and being faster in gaming 9 times outta 10? Im sorry but this is kinda a joke of a review and considering the i3 6100 also uses less power in every scenario i cant take this seriously. Either wait for Zen, or buy an Intel CPU right now because a 6350 is on a dead in the water platform and just all around isnt as good a performer for the price.

Well you see, AMD is so good at designing CPU's that they are actually self-aware and capable of evolving and adapting when placed in the motherboard socket. That is how a stock chip from 2012 is suddenly able to beat out overclocked 6700k's on these "reviews" that have been coming out recently and the party is only getting started, a few weeks from now it'll be faster than broadwell-E as well (and that isn't even its final form!). We all know Vishera is the fastest CPU to have ever been imagined, they just had to release the power slowly so as not to destroy the time-space continuum.

Either that or AMD is paying some review sites to get ignorant people to buy the old stock.
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I see everyone saying Vishera should die, look at my Phenom and go... 'S'obay buddy, you're doing well'.

 

My Athlon II X3 445 keeps on asking me when it's time to take a rest. I really can't wait to retire this chip.

 

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I'd take the I3 any day of the week over the FX cpu. OC it to 4.5ghz and have better performance in 95% of tasks/games. Anyone that buys a FX cpu new, should be given the darwin award. At some point fanboyism needs to stop and rational thought needs to occur. I mean double the single thread score...

 

I'd take the i3 at stock even, it gains a lot of benefits with Windows 10 in terms of system responsiveness. In my country, though, the argument between taking a 6350 over an i3-6300 doesn't even take place, because the Intel platform works out cheaper here. I wish our currency wasn't so crap though...

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  • NVMe support appears to be non-existent. There are a few new motherboards claiming to support it, but I'm skeptical that they really work. I'd stick with AHCI with AM3+ because I don't trust such a new standard on such an old platform. Given that more and more SSDs will be supporting NVMe, this really puts a damper on the futureproofiness of AM3+.

 

A colleague of mine got one in for testing. NVME drives work and boot just fine. I think that was a new 990FX board, not sure about the 970 ones with NVME capability.

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I'd like to see the i3 tested with faster sticks. Price difference between 2133Mhz and 3000Mhz is currently almost negligible so that'd be a completely relevant thing to do.

 

Doesn't that require a Z170 board to test those differences? In that case, you might as well not waste the money on it. Just buy a real quad-core chip instead and overclock that. Maybe even get one of those snazzy Microcenter bundles you Americans keep boasting about.

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At max/enthusiast settings in Crysis 1/Warhead, My 1150/1500 280X with 4.7GHz 8350 + 2x4GB 2400 9-10-9-1T gave no more than ~24-28 fps in later levels, GPU usage was within 50%, So was in Skyrim with ~20 or more NPCs.
Also NFS Shift 2 Unleashed never ran above 30-35fps in races at night. mad.gif
My current 3.5GHz i3 almost doubled the fps in Crysis/Skyrim, except in Shift 2 where fps improvements was only ~30% (~45 fps).

 

AMD's driver overhead issues would have also played into this though. It will be interesting to see how FX systems run with the RX 480. It would be nice to see them perform significantly better.


Edited by CataclysmZA - 6/18/16 at 2:34pm
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Doesn't that require a Z170 board to test those differences? In that case, you might as well not waste the money on it. Just buy a real quad-core chip instead and overclock that. Maybe even get one of those snazzy Microcenter bundles you Americans keep boasting about.

Completely depends on motherboard choice. The cheapest 1151 quad is around 80€ more so unless one's satisfied with the absolute cheapest 60€ boards, Z170 might be something to consider. They're not that much more than the B- and H-series.
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There is no special driver overhead in DX9/DX10 titles for Radeons. There was something off with his rig because Crysis and Crysis Warhead never dropped below 35fps for me on 1440p with a 290X. Willing to reinstall and check any part of those actually.
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