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"attempting to use that data to compare processor performance is extremely dishonest" thumb.gif

4x MSAA, max settings, unknown resolution to get the GPU load burning at full load is a cheap trick to make AMD equal to Intel. I mean you can't expect to see a difference between AMD & Intel when the GPU is the limitation - how long will it take before people understand this?
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OK.. so this thread began about the new cooler AMD launched, and turned into "Vishera is dead" argument.

"Buy our old awful price/performance crap and get a free new cooler"

That's all what this thread is about and their fanboys are supporting their silly marketing strategies. If the new cooler is the only reason for AMD to open their mouth again about their current CPU's, they're just being pathethic.

Also this thread is about a review.
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4x MSAA, max settings, unknown resolution to get the GPU load burning at full load is a cheap trick to make AMD equal to Intel. I mean you can't expect to see a difference between AMD & Intel when the GPU is the limitation - how long will it take before people understand this?
"Buy our old awful price/performance crap and get a free new cooler"

That's all what this thread is about and their fanboys are supporting their silly marketing strategies. If the new cooler is the only reason for AMD to open their mouth again about their current CPU's, they're just being pathethic.

Also this thread is about a review.

Like I said above it's the same arguments since 2011.

It blows my mind why people still don't get that when comparing CPU's it's better to do it at lower resolutions/detail settings to get a true measure of how the CPU is performing. Well some people get it of course.
    
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A amd FX 8300 + 970a-ud3 is cheaper than the i3 setup and more future proof

Cheaper? Yes. More future proof? No.

No PCIE3, no video output from the motherboard, no m.sata.

Its by far the least future proof you can choose.



Anyway, that review is irrelevant in terms of usability.
The motherboard for AMD cost more, no PCIE 3, no video output. Price alone they could choose a cheaper set of I3+motherboard which can give you wifi, or m.2, build a super small computer for your kids for a few hundreds, and you will end up having a cheaper, decently powerful PC, or just a small work PC for a few small things, which generate less heat as well.

Pure power means really not much when it comes to low-end, but the overall price. You will not buy a 120$ and say it is cheaper, but ignore everything else in terms of hardware needed.
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A amd FX 8300 + 970a-ud3 is cheaper than the i3 setup and more future proof



You have to be trolling.
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Like I said above it's the same arguments since 2011.

It blows my mind why people still don't get that when comparing CPU's it's better to do it at lower resolutions/detail settings to get a true measure of how the CPU is performing. Well some people get it of course.
Why so saltily testing it at a lower resolution when you are going to be using at a much higher resolution? It does not follow: the load is different, one is supposedly for 8-bit retro gaming emulation and not up to date. Literally, are we going to measure current generation cpus by how much better they can 'emulate' arcade gaming? Grasping at straws, now...
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The FX-6350 is a great CPU for gaming. I have been using it on my second machine for a few years now and it handles everything just fine. thumb.gif

Advertising your own site? mad.gif
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Why so saltily testing it at a lower resolution when you are going to be using at a much higher resolution? It does not follow: the load is different, one is for supposedly for 8-bit retro gaming emulation and not up to date. Literally, are we going to measure current generation cpus by how much better they can 'emulate' arcade gaming? Grasping at straws, now...

Because you're going to experience a CPU bottleneck regardless of what CPU you bought and you want to counter this as much as possible. You might be playing who knows hundreds of games for a given period and most likely you'll encounter a cpu limitation at some point. Besides if two different products cost the same, you'll buy whatever performs the best and not because of a silly false reason "oh it performs close or somewhat the same". CPU benchmarks shouldn't turn into GPU benchmarks, they should be tested at a low resolution because there are plenty or actually the vast majority of people who are only interested in raw CPU performance.
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Because you're going to experience a CPU bottleneck regardless of what CPU you bought and you want to counter this as much as possible. You might be playing who knows hundreds of games for a given period and most likely you'll encounter a cpu limitation at some point. Besides if two different products cost the same, you'll buy whatever performs the best and not because of a silly false reason "oh it performs close or somewhat the same". CPU benchmarks shouldn't turn into GPU benchmarks, they should be tested at a low resolution because there are plenty or actually the vast majority of people who are only interested in raw CPU performance.
So, does it matter whether it runs 60Hz, or 200Hz? Most monitors are 60 anyway. Continue obfuscating the solution some more, please.
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Why so saltily testing it at a lower resolution when you are going to be using at a much higher resolution? It does not follow: the load is different, one is supposedly for 8-bit retro gaming emulation and not up to date. Literally, are we going to measure current generation cpus by how much better they can 'emulate' arcade gaming? Grasping at straws, now...

TechReport got it right when measuring frame times and comparing the same card to different CPUs. If I had the space, I'd make graphs that correlate the frame times with CPU usage to see what their relationship is. Most sites don't take the time to delve into the nature of the CPUs involvement in running games, and it will become an important talking point for Zen, I'd imagine.
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TechReport got it right when measuring frame times and comparing the same card to different CPUs. If I had the space, I'd make graphs that correlate the frame times with CPU usage to see what their relationship is. Most sites don't take the time to delve into the nature of the CPUs involvement in running games, and it will become an important talking point for Zen, I'd imagine.
You mean TechSpot?
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