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Hi guys, I have a C2Q Q8300 (I know, it's old) and recently I got a new mobo (I live in Brazil, here are a ******* crisis, and I cant afford to buy a new socket, so let's at 775.) a P5QL-SE after much searching and find nothing, I discovered that the Q8xxx are horrible for OC, mainly 8300. An unconscious purchase, I had the money in hand, and bought without searching, but ok.

So I did not think anything about this mobo her default would hold out until 400FSB but I am in 424FSB and can't pass it.


I believe it is my ram, which sucks, is to change the timing but not know how to do it, so I came to ask for help to you who are more experienced hehe! What is limiting me?

I want 3.4ghz, 455FSB.

My temps ok. 3.18 are stable, didnt yield blue screen. I play gta v for hours, and still stable.

Oh! I forget, my PSU: CX 430
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You're limited by the P43 chipset in addition to that Q8300. If you want better overclocking, then you are going to need a much better motherboard, and it would need to have the P45 chipset, or the X48 chipset. Anything else, and you're up a creek without a paddle.

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You're limited by the P43 chipset in addition to that Q8300. If you want better overclocking, then you are going to need a much better motherboard, and it would need to have the P45 chipset, or the X48 chipset. Anything else, and you're up a creek without a paddle.

No way then? I thought the problem was the memories ...

I am looking to buy a P5Q3, thinking of selling my newly purchased P5QL SE + G31 + DDR2 and buy a P5Q3. You will only miss me money for DDR3
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No way then? I thought the problem was the memories ...

I am looking to buy a P5Q3, thinking of selling my newly purchased P5QL SE + G31 + DDR2 and buy a P5Q3. You will only miss me money for DDR3

Probably no, that motherboard isn't really designed to overclock (maybe a bit of overclock, but not a lot). A P5Q3 would be a pretty nice motherboard, but, if i remember correctly you can't use some modern DDR3 sticks (like 8GB sticks for example, the chipset can't handle them, or very high speed modules, like 2000+Mhz).

But, since I know in Brazil things aren't cheap, also look at modern hardware too (Socket 1155 and up), maybe you could buy something much better than what the Q8300 can do by just increasing a bit your budget.
     
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No way then? I thought the problem was the memories ...

I am looking to buy a P5Q3, thinking of selling my newly purchased P5QL SE + G31 + DDR2 and buy a P5Q3. You will only miss me money for DDR3

Definitely don't get P5Q3, DDR3 LGA775 boards a huge pain. Mine is barely running stable after hours of tweaking, and I can't go higher than 425ish FSB without instant blue screen.
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Omg yeah, a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge CPU would absolutely destroy that Q8300 - even at stock.

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Probably no, that motherboard isn't really designed to overclock (maybe a bit of overclock, but not a lot). A P5Q3 would be a pretty nice motherboard, but, if i remember correctly you can't use some modern DDR3 sticks (like 8GB sticks for example, the chipset can't handle them, or very high speed modules, like 2000+Mhz).

But, since I know in Brazil things aren't cheap, also look at modern hardware too (Socket 1155 and up), maybe you could buy something much better than what the Q8300 can do by just increasing a bit your budget.

I configured the PCIE at 104mhz FSB and got to 435! yeah
Regarding the DDR3 I know that I will have to buy those green without sink, older and such.
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Definitely don't get P5Q3, DDR3 LGA775 boards a huge pain. Mine is barely running stable after hours of tweaking, and I can't go higher than 425ish FSB without instant blue screen.

Oh bigeyedsmiley.png Tell me more about this mobo!

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Omg yeah, a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge CPU would absolutely destroy that Q8300 - even at stock.

I'll find a way to get a 2600k + mobo. But one 2600K here is the price of a new 4690k! Anyway, I think it will be best to take a 2600K heheh!
But I love the socket 775
But it's time to update it.
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With a new 1155 motherboard, you'd need new memory too. Oh, and if you get an 1155 motherboard, then remember that P67, Z68 and Z77 motherboards are the only ones to look at for overclocking.

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With a new 1155 motherboard, you'd need new memory too. Oh, and if you get an 1155 motherboard, then remember that P67, Z68 and Z77 motherboards are the only ones to look at for overclocking.

Yes, i know! These chipsets are rarely available for sale, and often are expensive here.
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Yes, i know! These chipsets are rarely available for sale, and often are expensive here.
Well, they aren't sold anymore brand new, if you look towards 1155 you should look at used hardware. It would be almost impossible to find a brand new P67/Z68/Z77 motherboard.
     
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