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I need to say this because it's apparent people are reading something that's not there... I never said "I" had throttling issues.... I'm strictly talking about the reports out there on this issue. Don't believe me, Google it.

I'm merely bringing up a known issue with these drives, and hoping the issue gets resolved with this new release. That's all. Again... I didn't say "I" had the issue; can't really say I've noticed one way or the other. I'm simply reporting what's out there.

Being so vocal on trivial issues that don't have any impact on you sounds really exhausting haha...
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Being so vocal on trivial issues that don't have any impact on you sounds really exhausting haha...

Read this report from Puget Systems and you'll see that the throttling isn't "trivial."

Samsung 950 Pro M.2 Thottling

With single and dual GPUs and position of M.2 slot, throttling can be up to 76% after 7 seconds.
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Read this report from Puget Systems and you'll see that the throttling isn't "trivial."

Samsung 950 Pro M.2 Thottling

With single and dual GPUs and position of M.2 slot, throttling can be up to 76% after 7 seconds.

In that mere 7 seconds, you've written over 10GB of data to the drive. If you find yourself in a scenario wherein you frequently write 10GB files to a M.2 drive - which 1) assumes one is using a M.2 drive to store their large rendering projects on (LOL), and 2) assumes the file source is capable of reading the file in question quickly enough for the M.2 drive to write the file at its maximum throughput - then perhaps dropping a few extra dollars on some U.2 drives makes a lot of sense.

So yes, the issue is quite trivial.
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Read this report from Puget Systems and you'll see that the throttling isn't "trivial."

Samsung 950 Pro M.2 Thottling

With single and dual GPUs and position of M.2 slot, throttling can be up to 76% after 7 seconds.

It's easier to dismiss the message than face facts. First they tried to deny such issue; now it's "minor" smile.gif
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Read this report from Puget Systems and you'll see that the throttling isn't "trivial."

Samsung 950 Pro M.2 Thottling

With single and dual GPUs and position of M.2 slot, throttling can be up to 76% after 7 seconds.

It's easier to dismiss the message than face facts. First they tried to deny such issue; now it's "minor" smile.gif

Seriously, the guy is desperately justifying yet another epic fail by the great Samsung.

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One thing we want to point out is that it is pretty uncommon to fully utilize a drive this fast to the same extent we did in this article. Very few programs will actually be able to read from a Samsung 950 Pro at full speed for more than a very short period of time - often the drive will have to regularly wait on the CPU or some other component to actually process the data. In truth, the most common situation you might run throttling is going to be if you have two M.2 drives and you are copying large amounts of data from one drive to the other.

From the throttling article.
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Seriously, the guy is desperately justifying yet another epic fail by the great Samsung.

For clarity, I'm not "desperately trying to justify" anything. I just pointed out a known issue, and asked a question. Suddenly I get attacked for bringing it up. It was a simple question of asking if the issue is resolved; nothing more, nothing less.

As to the severity of the performance hit/impact, that may be debated, but the thermal throttling issue is there, and needs to be addressed. That was my point.

The other issue, and this is on the side of motherboard manufacturers, is where to place these heat demons. The most popular place is under or near one of the most heat producing units in the system.... the GPU.

On my Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gming GT motherboard the two available m.2 slots are below/above CPU/GPU (top) or directly under the GPU (bottom). With the Gaming GT, if you use the top you lose 2 of your 6 Intel SATA port. Using the bottom gets you all your SATA ports, but you're now directly under the GPU, especially if you have a dual slotted card.

Would like to see board manufactures consider moving these m.2 slots for better heat dissipation. I've seen an ASUS motherboard where one of the m.2 slots was near the bottom. Thought that was a good idea, but....

My two cents.

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Seriously, the guy is desperately justifying yet another epic fail by the great Samsung.
These drives are aimed at consumers. If this was aimed at enterprise then yes it's a massive setback but 99.9 % of people out there who will purchase this drive will never utilize it so hard to the point where it throttles.
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