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I only have one computer and do not need a router in that sense. I've read on the web that even if the user only has one computer that he/she should get a router anyways because that provides protection against attacks against the computer.

I called my cable company and they said you only need a router if you want to access the internet with multiple computers. So what is the correct answer here?

If I need a router (for this extra added protection), what is the best router just for the extra protection. I do not need WIFI capabilities.
post #2 of 13
Yeah some routers have built in Firewalls and other forms of protection like mine personal router has AiProtection but do you need one??? Nah. Don't see why you wouldn't get a router though. You don't have any wireless devices? Or is the router given by your ISP one of those WIFI enabled pieces of Junk?
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Yeah some routers have built in Firewalls and other forms of protection like mine personal router has AiProtection but do you need one??? Nah. Don't see why you wouldn't get a router though. You don't have any wireless devices? Or is the router given by your ISP one of those WIFI enabled pieces of Junk?

No, I purchased it myself for $100.00, but it's modem.
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I see. Yeah got my own modem as well. So you just using the out of the modem and that is it? Kind of odd. But nah in short you don't need a router for security reasons. You good.
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post #5 of 13
generally speaking most home routers don't offer much in the way of protection. AiProtection has some very basic intelligent scanning technology, honestly not sure it even does much. it also blocks known malicious websites.

also modems don't route or offer any security at all they only convert the carrier wave signal to an ethernet signal so your computer or router understands it.

you're better off making sure windows firewall is enabled, installing avira or kaspersky (avira has a free one) and i think spybot has a utility that blocks malicious websites.
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modems just give you an external IP address, a router 'hides' your machine from the internet behind nat,

you should never directly expose a pc to the internet, should always be behind NAT
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ahh yes i always forget NAT offers a small amount of security. however, i was under the impression that the modem in a lot of cases handles a certain type of NAT (as its address is internal a lot of the time, i.e. 192.168.1.100 by default for motorola i think)
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Ish, modems don't do any nat ever, thats a router smile.gif annoyingly pedantic but have to be in tech! Modems just act as a interface changing it from TCP/IP to *mumbles the name of the protocol uses*, as your PC cant do the modulation / demodulation smile.gif
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Ish, modems don't do any nat ever, thats a router smile.gif annoyingly pedantic but have to be in tech! Modems just act as a interface changing it from TCP/IP to *mumbles the name of the protocol uses*, as your PC cant do the modulation / demodulation smile.gif

Can you recommend a router for me?
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are you sure you dont allready have a modem router smile.gif? What did you buy of amazon, its usually hard to get a straight modem!
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