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Excellent.
Mass Effect 3 should just be retconned, the Reapers won, there is no freakish nonsense glowy kid controlling the cycle of life in this Galaxy, and after the Andromeda series ends and they should send a armada back to the Milky Way to actually beat the Reapers for real this time, using the advantage of knowing the capabilities of your enemy plus an unlimited amount of time to prepare.

I'd play that.

Then again, it requires an immense amount of manpower, and industrial backup in order to pull something like this, aka creating Reaper killer armada. Finding an ancient superweapon and/or sentient armada then wake it up and lead it back to milky way or even where Reapers came from makes more sense (in terms of two factors i've listed)

Not gonna lie, knowing that ME3 will be ignore, I think i can play ME saga again, come until ME3, do side quests and DLCs then stop before the end, ignore it completely.

Except that killing the Reapers with a Macguffin would be totally lame, and is basically the whole reason the ME3 endings sucked.
"Killing them in their sleep", while tactically sound, makes for short story.


I agree that the possibility of moving forward while pretending that the ME3 ending doesn't exist could actually convince me to finally buy the game. Given that the end is totally void of character development the game content really does end with the death of Shepard, and that ending is fitting in a shakespearian kind of way.

(I played ME1 seven times (mostly speed running for different save files) and ME2 twice, about 50 hours with each game. When ME3 hit I just tried to forget. Andromeda could be very refreshing if they get it right.)
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Except that killing the Reapers with a Macguffin would be totally lame, and is basically the whole reason the ME3 endings sucked.
"Killing them in their sleep", while tactically sound, makes for short story.


I agree that the possibility of moving forward while pretending that the ME3 ending doesn't exist could actually convince me to finally buy the game. Given that the end is totally void of character development the game content really does end with the death of Shepard, and that ending is fitting in a shakespearian kind of way.

True, Crucible WAS after all, the superweapon... I was referring more like another sentient race sleeping in Andromeda, waiting to be waken up as the arch enemy of Reapers *insert drums*

Meh... In anyway, ME3 ending and its plot in general, sucked in a scale that even R.R. Martin would fail to fix it by chopping off some heads.The plot itself is not rewarding at all. After spending hundreds of hours on gameplay, one will always get the same result, obligation to pick your favorite RGB color, because its writers thought "that this is not some Hollywood movie and there should be no happy endings."

If the player did all side quests followed a consistent ethic and plot related decisions throughout the three games, there should be happy endings. I just hate when developers assume that they are Shakespeare or Tolkien or someone else by writing bunch of crap cliché video game plots.

Blood and Wine of Withcer 3 does give you a happy ending, that is if you completed the game by doing everything possible. ME3 should've the same and similar ending. Yes, the idea of self-sacrifice is indeed a heroic action, one which only Shepard could do, although player should not have been limited to one universal choice.

They should've stick with dark matter plotline mentioned in ME2 and things perhaps would've been better, who knows.

That being said, I just remembered that there will be vaults and ancient races in Andromeda, according to leaks. We might get have "an ancient enemy of Reapers blabla" plot after all... if they didn't change their script again, like ME3.
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This is not exactly news... Since months ago it was quite clear how things are going to work... Refer to this old post of mine;

http://www.overclock.net/t/1595578/vg247-mass-effect-andromeda-releasing-in-early-2017/20_20#post_25036672
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I find it strange that people are still so upset by the ending of ME3. The rest of the game was pretty darn good. Sure, the ending sucked, so? It just seems silly to me to be so bent out of shape over it. Especially now after so much time has passed.
 
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I find it strange that people are still so upset by the ending of ME3. The rest of the game was pretty darn good. Sure, the ending sucked, so? It just seems silly to me to be so bent out of shape over it. Especially now after so much time has passed.

I just stop playing every time when I get to the crucible when ever I go back to play it.

Indoctrination theory would have put the original trilogy on a whole new level, but its not the first time a company was out of touch.

That being said I am looking forward to something new from The Mass Effect series to put that ending behind me.
    
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I find it strange that people are still so upset by the ending of ME3. The rest of the game was pretty darn good. Sure, the ending sucked, so? It just seems silly to me to be so bent out of shape over it. Especially now after so much time has passed.

It's a bit disingenuous to say the only thing wrong with Mass Effect 3 was the ending, it suffered from signicantly downgrades in terms of writing and general narrative at the hand of Mac Walters after Drew Karpyshyn was sent to work on Tor-tanic. Not to mention Bioware's notorious inability to accept anything resembling criticism/feedback from it's own forum goers, ending in mass banning of anyone who stepped out of line. Quite a fiasco if you were there to witness it. More could easily be said if I wanted to bother mentioning glaring plot-holes/continuity issues, but I would have to brush up on the lore again after putting it out of my mind.

And then there's the words of Casey Hudson that riled people up.
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It's a bit disingenuous to say the only thing wrong with Mass Effect 3 was the ending, it suffered from signicantly downgrades in terms of writing and general narrative at the hand of Mac Walters after Drew Karpyshyn was sent to work on Tor-tanic. Not to mention Bioware's notorious inability to accept anything resembling criticism/feedback from it's own forum goers, ending in mass banning of anyone who stepped out of line. Quite a fiasco if you were there to witness it. More could easily be said if I wanted to bother mentioning glaring plot-holes/continuity issues, but I would have to brush up on the lore again after putting it out of my mind.

And then there's the words of Casey Hudson that riled people up.

 

Yep, was so burnt when Drew left the series, then played through the swotor stories, they were good, then the game died.

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And then there's the words of Casey Hudson that riled people up.

That's the key point for me, it was a large part of my motivation to play the first two games.

It might have been ok if they had at least vaguely attempted to give people unique endings, but what they did feels like someone purposefully sabotaged the game, it's so diametrically opposed to the core principles of the series that I could only look at it as a message from the developers that no one was happy with the situation and Mass Effect 3 was dead on arrival.
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Mass Effect 3 never happened. I like it.

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It's a bit disingenuous to say the only thing wrong with Mass Effect 3 was the ending, it suffered from signicantly downgrades in terms of writing and general narrative at the hand of Mac Walters after Drew Karpyshyn was sent to work on Tor-tanic. Not to mention Bioware's notorious inability to accept anything resembling criticism/feedback from it's own forum goers, ending in mass banning of anyone who stepped out of line. Quite a fiasco if you were there to witness it. More could easily be said if I wanted to bother mentioning glaring plot-holes/continuity issues, but I would have to brush up on the lore again after putting it out of my mind.

And then there's the words of Casey Hudson that riled people up.

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