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I may or may not have inserted my foot into my mouth up to the hip. After reading that article that you linked, Sand, I re-examined the whole CPU/NB and HT Link freq subject. There's no reason, like you said, for my HT Link to be at 2600. I can't raise CPU/NB freq above HT Link freq. So, I thought 2400 lock step would be good. For some reason when I went for 4.4ghz, I had to drop CPU/NB freq down to 2200.

Since 4.4ghz seems the best I can get without riding the limits, I'll stay there. Haven't done a full Prime95 yet, and I'm curious how overclockers feel safe running it overnight while they're away from the computer?

Also, here's my spread sheet data. They're may or may not be some good settings on there. Everyone of them passed 10 runs on IBT very high.

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That pic is so much helpful info to future members than anything else ive seen in a long time. I really should take the time to update mine and post it too. Im looking at taking some time off work and doing a full build log and OCing walkthtough on my rig. It just takes so much time to do it right.
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That pic is so much helpful info to future members than anything else ive seen in a long time. I really should take the time to update mine and post it too. Im looking at taking some time off work and doing a full build log and OCing walkthtough on my rig. It just takes so much time to do it right.

Wow! Really? I just did what you suggested for me to do. I'm kinda iffy on the NB 1.8v setting. When I raised a couple of bumps past default, it threw off my vcore pattern a bit and caused a 0.012 +/- fluctuation that just wouldn't steady out. That's why when I went to 4.4ghz I just dropped it back to default.

Also, going from 4.3ghz to 4.4ghz I started got 3 different BSOD stop codes. Another reason why I decided to set the NB 1.8v back to the default of 1.815v. I don't know if that was the issue or not. Even though the 4.4ghz finally passed a 10 run IBT @ very high, I'm not holding high hopes it will pass even one hour in P95.

Anyways, thanks for the rep. Wasn't expecting that nor the high compliment.
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I had to think hard where I put this rolleyes.gif http://www.overclock.net/t/1494400/ht-link-speed-northbridge-speed#post_22381481

Overnight? How else could I get a 24 hr run of P95 in lol.
Seriously though I do let mine go whenever duty calls but I'm also very comfortable with my cooling solution. It's never been an issue for me.

As long as room ambient doesn't rise significantly you should have a good idea of what to expect temp wise after you're into a couple hours of Prime95. At that point you could still see an increase but it's usually only 3c - 4c from what I remember of the air cooling days.
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I had to think hard where I put this rolleyes.gif http://www.overclock.net/t/1494400/ht-link-speed-northbridge-speed#post_22381481

Overnight? How else could I get a 24 hr run of P95 in lol.
Seriously though I do let mine go whenever duty calls but I'm also very comfortable with my cooling solution. It's never been an issue for me.

As long as room ambient doesn't rise significantly you should have a good idea of what to expect temp wise after you're into a couple hours of Prime95. At that point you could still see an increase but it's usually only 3c - 4c from what I remember of the air cooling days.

At 4.4ghz, I'm not concerned with temps because I have adequate cooling for that speed and the ambient temps tend to go down some as the night goes on. I'm more concerned about any possible BSOD or reboots (or even reboot loops) while I'm away. Yesterday I was in the kitchen getting me a drink. The kitchen is only 5 feet away and I can see my computer from there (there's a bar separating the kitchen from the living room). My computer rebooted twice before I could get back to it.

Also, when you're overclocking, have you ever found a speed that was particularly harder to get stable compared to others? 4.3 brought me to the edge of my sanity. I don't remember having that much problems all the other times I've gotten to 4.3ghz. Maybe it was because of the 2400 lockstep.

Still looking for that unicorn setting that would allow me to get 4.5ghz with a 1.488v core on load. I might try the offset method so that I can enable CNQ. That way it's not sitting on 1.5v 24/7. I, also, want to try 4.4ghz with the fsb method. I'm just curious how 2600 lockstep would compare to the 2200/2400.

The PSU might be the limiting factor. I know we've already talked about it. If I'm not mistaken (which I usually am), the EVGA 500w I have is a revised and they got away from the HEC. Remember those few certain voltage settings where it fluctuates +/- 0.012v? One more bump and it levels out. But if you add up all the times I have to do that, I would be able to hit 4.5ghz at or around 1.46v. Just a theory. LOL, I could just be grasping at straws because I want the 4.5ghz pretty bad.

Gotta do somethings on my android emulator, so I'll get back at it tomorrow.......err later today.

Edit: I seriously gotta start reading the links you give me before responding. If I understand this right, there's absolutely no substantial gain from running CPU/NB freq past 2200mhz and HT Link past 2400mhz. Also, it looks like Piledriver/Bulldozer arc don't really get any benefits from FSB overclocking. The RAM part I'm not concerned a whole lot.

I would have only saved $4-5 by getting 1600mhz rather than the 1866ghz. At the time Gskill Sniper 4x2 8gb 1866mhz were $36 and the 1600mhz version were like $32.
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Here's something that might benefit people with Gskill Ram: http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=11742
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I shot for 4.5ghz again. Why? Because, I don't know how to let things go. I'm a little surprised. Not a good surprise or a bad surprise. Just surprised.

Disclaimer: Yes, I know it was at 1.512v (1.524v) with core at load. Technically still have 0.026v head room.

I'm not concerned with the volts. Temps are the limiting factor on whether I stay at 4.5ghz. I have a bunch of pics that I will be uploading. The last 3 will be with Cinebench, Realbench, and Heaven's Bench. I wanted to know what my temps might look like under various conditions. Real conditions. But, before those pics I will be putting my final spreadsheet and IBT very high 10 run pass.

"It's not stable until it runs in P95 for X hours!" You maybe right. However, I needed to see some information before I attempt that. I needed to see what kind of temps I can be expecting on a regular basis. If temps are very high under normal usage, then P95 have my processor for breakfast, brunch, lunch, dinner, and a few snacks in between.

What was the surprise? I ran across a statement made on overclocker.com by R-Gone about how faster clock speed doesn't always translate to faster speed. I've found that to be true with the 4.5ghz.
I could only get 4.5ghz to pass IBT when I set CPU/NB freq and HT Link freq to 2000mhz. I don't know why. I'm sure there's a way to set them higher. Then, again temps would be much higher. 4.4ghz did much better in Realbench than 4.5ghz and almost as good in Cinebench.

The temps had me scratching my head, though. 4.4ghz ran nearly same temps as 4.5ghz during 10 runs of IBT @ very high. It could be as a result of having higher CPU/NB and HT Link speeds. I don't know enough to come up with a better explanation.

I ran Heaven's Bench, because I needed to see what temps would look like while gaming. I absolutely loved the results. But, how much higher would they be with games that require more CPU. Grant it, one core did hit near or slightly above 60% usage.

Anyways, here's the pics. Tell me what you think.
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Edit: I forgot to mention that 4.5ghz would not boot with anything less than 1.488v on core.
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There are some things in HWINFO64 that are mislabeled. This leads to confusion.

As near as I can interpret it:

CPU 0 is the CPU temperature

Temperature 1 is the socket temperature

Temperature 2 is the motherboard pcb temperature in some out of the way place

vcore is ?????? VDDA?

vccp2 is ?????????

+3.3v is the VCORE

AVCC3 might be the actual +3.3v

+12v should be reading at least 11.8 v

The power fan is running at 75,000 rpm? Is that the power supply or PSU fan? The PSU could be failing on you. 500 watts isn't enough in the first place and the numbers seem to show it.
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I was looking at PSU's (and that one link you gave me, Sand). I found this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152066&ignorebbr=1
That link you gave me, Sand, didn't say anything whatsoever about Raidmax. For that matter, the poster pretty much ruled out every other "known" brands. Don't know what to do.
The PSU I listed is modular (I don't really care about that), is 80+ bronze, and has a black/blue them (a minor perk). I only have one graphics card and no optical drives. AFAIK, I don't need anything more than 500-600w. It's supposedly has all kind of over/under current protection. Any thoughts?
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PSU's work most efficiently when they are not running flat out. It is desirable to have some head room for future additions as well as longer life.

My system uses an OC'ed 8370, a 290X, an optical drive, air cooling with 2 fans, 4 case fans, 2 hard drives (1 mech and 1 ssd) and when gaming it pulls 520-530 watts from the wall. That would burn up your chosen PSU.

This is what I'm using and it has been a cool running and reliable unit for 2 years now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151102

Yes you will gag at the price, but consider the hair pulling aggravation you are going through now.
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