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About no. 2: A little knowledge goes a long ways. When I started out in January 2013 I knew how to work a screwdriver, and that was about it. I had built systems but never overclocked one.

My motherboard then was a $120 one. After RMA's, mods, aftermarket parts for it, plus postage I had over $220 in it and it still didn't work right. After a little research on this site I got a $175 board and it is still performing beyond all expectations. When learning how to do this stuff spare parts happen.

About no. 5: Yes patience is key as well as starting out easy. I started at 4 ghz and was trying for 4.5 ghz. That part turned out to be easy, but keeping the hardware alive at that clock was the hard part! I no longer set goals but just tinker with it and go where it leads me. It turns out that trying to force a round plug into a square hole often does not end well.

The main thing is to have fun. Enjoy!
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About no. 2: A little knowledge goes a long ways. When I started out in January 2013 I knew how to work a screwdriver, and that was about it. I had built systems but never overclocked one.

My motherboard then was a $120 one. After RMA's, mods, aftermarket parts for it, plus postage I had over $220 in it and it still didn't work right. After a little research on this site I got a $175 board and it is still performing beyond all expectations. When learning how to do this stuff spare parts happen.

About no. 5: Yes patience is key as well as starting out easy. I started at 4 ghz and was trying for 4.5 ghz. That part turned out to be easy, but keeping the hardware alive at that clock was the hard part! I no longer set goals but just tinker with it and go where it leads me. It turns out that trying to force a round plug into a square hole often does not end well.

The main thing is to have fun. Enjoy!

I have no doubt that if I had bought a 990 or a 990x mobo then I could get even better results. For the moment, I am completely satisfied and it has been a fun ride. The biggest and most effective "tool" (for the lack of a better word) is being able to discuss things with you and the rest of the gang. I still consider myself a novice, but I'm much farther than I was when I started and that came with a lot of help. biggrin.gif
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Why is that you want to place fans over VRM if they already have head sinks, are you replacing them for fans or put them over head sinks?
It's always a good idea when overclocking an FX to cool the VRMs directly with a fan. A small passive heatsink for VRMs is quite limited without good airflow on it.
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Since many people are confused about CPU-NB on FX, if this is the first time you overclock, keep it at stock, whatever that frequency is on your motherboard.
FSB overclocking is much more different than changing multipliers, you are basically overclocking your whole system and it's harder on the CPU-RAM-IMC, plus you will have to fine tune everything.

Stock CPU-NB differs from motherboard to motherboard, i'm pretty sure that most 970 chipsets have 2000 stock, but there might be some newer with 2200. (HT=2400 stock for 970 chipset compared to 990)
On my Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3, changing the CPUNB multi from x10(stock) to x11, will instantly make my system unstable, even when i push 1.3V in it.(aero crashing, programs hanging etc..)

Which is funny because when FSB overclocking, i can get CPUNB to 2500 easily, even at high CPU overclocks like 4.6-4.8Ghz.HWBOT

You can get some small gains from CPUNB overclock even on FX, like from 2000->2500 you get MAX +10% performance in some benchmarks.
When using fast RAM like 2400MHz, it might be more useful.
You will need to bump your voltage both on the CPU and CPUNB, so that's a lot of extra heat which -most probably- will lower your max CPU OC.

So my suggestion is:
If you dont care that much to get into all that trouble, better keep it at stock, you don't lose much.
If you care to overclock your CPUNB on a 970 chipset, keep the multiplier at stock(whatever that is on your system).
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Since many people are confused about CPU-NB on FX, if this is the first time you overclock, keep it at stock, whatever that frequency is on your motherboard.
FSB overclocking is much more different than changing multipliers, you are basically overclocking your whole system and it's harder on the CPU-RAM-IMC, plus you will have to fine tune everything.

Stock CPU-NB differs from motherboard to motherboard, i'm pretty sure that most 970 chipsets have 2000 stock, but there might be some newer with 2200. (HT=2400 stock for 970 chipset compared to 990)
On my Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3, changing the CPUNB multi from x10(stock) to x11, will instantly make my system unstable, even when i push 1.3V in it.(aero crashing, programs hanging etc..)

Which is funny because when FSB overclocking, i can get CPUNB to 2500 easily, even at high CPU overclocks like 4.6-4.8Ghz.HWBOT

You can get some small gains from CPUNB overclock even on FX, like from 2000->2500 you get MAX +10% performance in some benchmarks.
When using fast RAM like 2400MHz, it might be more useful.
You will need to bump your voltage both on the CPU and CPUNB, so that's a lot of extra heat which -most probably- will lower your max CPU OC.

So my suggestion is:
If you dont care that much to get into all that trouble, better keep it at stock, you don't lose much.
If you care to overclock your CPUNB on a 970 chipset, keep the multiplier at stock(whatever that is on your system).

With this chip, I didn't bother with the FSB. I didn't want any more variance in the mix than what's already there. When I overclocked the other FX6300 I did see a good increase in RealBench when I had CPU/NB freq at 2200 and HT Link at 2400, but not much more (if any) when CPU/NB freq was set at 2400.

Also, on my board there's not anyway to directly change the CPU/NB multiplier. It auto adjust depending on which freq I have set (i.e 2400= 200x12).

Errr....forgot to mention that, yes, my CPU/NB freq is at stock 2000 and HT Link is at stock 2400.
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I know this is a little off topic, but a question was asked and addressed earlier and I just wanna add more info to it. I was piddling around on Newegg to see how much an Intel build will run me (won't even get into that). I found an ASUS Sabertooth Tuf Z170 board that was covered all over with heatsink like material, which was cool. But, what's worth noting is that it comes with 2 very small fans that you install yourself. One pushes heat away from the VRM and out the I/O shield area. The other sits somewhere near the NB pulling heat off of it. It is a very pricey board ($250), but if I had the money and was doing an Intel build, I'd probably buy that board. Personally, I think that any board that has VRM heatsinks should have a small fan either built into it or that you can attach to it. I think it's relatively safe to say that if you drop that kinda money on a board, chances are good that you're wanting to overclock.

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Can anyone tell me why there's no difference between these 2 setups as far as temps go?:

1) Radiator on top with 2 SP120mm pushing air through and out.

2) Radiator in front with 2 SP120mm pushing air in and 2 sp120mm pulling air through.
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Could be any number of reasons. Are the fans high static pressure fans? If not having more may not help as much as you think.

A push pull config usually provides better results but its not crazy dramatic even with the best fans.
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Could be any number of reasons. Are the fans high static pressure fans? If not having more may not help as much as you think.

A push pull config usually provides better results but its not crazy dramatic even with the best fans.

The 2 that are between the rad and the case are the fans that come with the AIO cooler. It's a Deepcool Gamer Storm Captain 240EX. The ones on the inside are http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181070 .

It could be that I put some cleaned off the water block and CPU and put some thermal paste on it. It comes with a very very thin layer. I didn't like how the tubes were sitting so that's when I decided to put the rad in the front. But to do that I had to turn the water block so the tubes were coming out on the right side. There was very little thermal paste on the water block and very little on the CPU, so I reapplied some. Non conductive of course. So, maybe it will take some time to "burn in".
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Can anyone tell me why there's no difference between these 2 setups as far as temps go?:

1) Radiator on top with 2 SP120mm pushing air through and out.

2) Radiator in front with 2 SP120mm pushing air in and 2 sp120mm pulling air through.

Push vs push/pull on a 27mm thick rad with fin spacing approx 11 per inch (guessing that's what you have) may not be noticeable till either the room ambient increases or the load temps increase (more OC).
Play enough and you'll find that spot where the pull does help, but it's more at the extreme end of things.

As for applying TIM always clean with 91% alcohol and be sure you watch this http://www.overclock.net/t/1318995/official-fx-8320-fx-8350-vishera-owners-club/24890#post_20981038
I found IC Diamond lowered my temps 4c-5c compared to AS5 http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g8/c127/s754/list/p1/Thermal_Interface-Thermal_Interface_Materials-Innovation_Cooling_Compounds-Page1.html
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