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I know pretty much nothing about intel as i've only ever had amd but it seems like amd has been bottom for a while and my last rig is over 6 years old and i've forgotten a lot since I last built a rig. That being said here's what im thinking and looking for advice on what to do for a rig that I will build later this year pretty much only for gaming only thing I know exactly what I want is the GPU and intel.

I7 6700k(or 6850?)
GTX 1080
ddr4 ram no idea which tho I imagine 16gb will be plenty was eyeballing some 4000 stuff
850 watt 80+ titanium psu (unless it's way overkill)
ssd I have one already but they're cheap anyways so may swap from old rig or just buy another
absolutely no idea on motherboard
h110 cpu cooler? don't really care for my ridiculous cooler I have on my current rig so don't want something huge like that ever again
likely use my case from current rig altho a new case isn't much
windows 10

Would a 4k monitor even be worth the extra money over I already have a decent 1080 one also? Only reason im on a 4k kick is from buying a 4k tv for no reason at all.

I don't want to go crazy on budget so not going to go 2 1080s or that crazy expensive $1700 cpu but some help would be nice give me a better idea of what I would be looking to spend and such. I really rarely even game much lately but I have an itch that needs scratched and this seems like it'd do the trick......Thanks.
Edited by Johnn999 - 6/22/16 at 1:18am
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A 550-650W 80+ gold GPU will be more than enough for this build. Something like the EVGA Supernova G2 550W, Corsair RMx/RMi 550W or better.

16 Gigabytes of DDR4 memory the most you'll probably ever need when you play only games. (The sweet spot for DDR4 is around 2133 MHz to 3000 MHz, better to go for higher speed if it doesn't cost significantly more as it can yield FPS improvements in some games such as Fallout 4 or other CPU bound games.

i7 6700K is a good choice, anything higher than that is literally a waste of money for gaming. I don't really know what to pick for the motherboard but at least it would be a Z170 one. I'd wait on someone to post about motherboard recommendations.
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The CPU´s you are talking about dont use the same sockets so be aware of that as they are not interchangeable
The 6600K/6700K are on LGA 1151 and the 6800K/6850K are on socket LGA 2011-3

4000 MHz RAM is also a bit overkill if you ask me but whatever RAM is cheap

Higher 80 plus rating does not mean its better and you can find junk that is Titanium rated, efficiency has nothing to do with quality
And the wattage is also massive overkill as stated already

As for the cooler its a common misconception that CLC coolers are better then air coolers when in fact its the other way around, the cooler you found is is overpriced overhyped overrated loud and unreliable

You would be better off with a good air cooler instead as its going to be cheaper and more quiet, if you dont like air coolers you should take a look at some of the high end AIO coolers from EK and Swiftech instead of that CLC junk from Corsair

Last is the monitor and no i dont think you should get a 4K monitor unless you get one that is a 30 inch or bigger as 4K really should not be viewed with super high pixel density if you ask me

Why not get a 2560x1440 monitor with high refresh rate like say the Asus PG279Q or the Acer XB270HU.
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post #4 of 6
z170 is good enough for games though I have been reading how x99 cpu's will most likely retain more value over the next 5 years since they have 6 cores and more threads. Depending on if you have access to a microcenter you can get a 5820k for $320 or a 5930k for $500. Being an amd cpu user you migh want to wait till zen. Personally I was thinking about either x99 or z170 and am leaning towards x99 since I want to start editing but when I was looking at z170 I was considering itx for a small form factor. If you add up everything the x99 platform usually costs just a little more or just as much than the z170 depending on what you're looking at.

I wouldn't buy a 1080 gtx though. HBM2 is too close and nvidia is just overpricing reference cards because amd has priority over hbm2 memory for their gpu's while they focus on the mainstream $200 r480's until Q4 '16 Q1 '17 hbm2 release.
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Part of why I was looking at the 6700k is I read the 1151 will have like 2 more iterations where the other one is on it's last setup. I mean maybe that's wrong the 6850 isn't much more than the 5930k so it's not a big deal to me that's just what I listed both if one socket set is better or will have more life, if that's the better option, 6850, I will go with it but if it's a waste and games over the next few years won't ever actually take advantage of the extra cores then I won't bother. Here's some suggestions and then I will go from there nothings set in stone as I don't know intel or ram really...

As for ram since it's cheap anyways what about http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232268

For mobo if i go 6700k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132700 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132637

If I go 6850/5930 something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132518 or something retarded like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132838 If something is much much better ill get it aslong as it's not a HUGE price difference altho it's probably not worth it to get that super expensive one.

Here's the PSU i was originally eybealling http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438063

Noise doesn't really bother me as my sli 470's sound like a darn jet. What about the swifttech h240/h320 then? http://www.swiftech.com/h320x2.aspx

Is HBM2 really going to come out soon? sometimes I feel like if I wait for one thing it'd pretty much be waiting forever anyways as something is always about to come out. Anything really is a huge upgrade from my current rig altho I won't build this until later in the year.

As for monitor I was just eyeballing http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=24-009-658 but if 4k at this size is pretty pointless I have no problem going 2k I just figured a bunch of stuff would be 4k. Mind you this rig will be here for a long while again like my old one has been. On the other hand nothing is even saying I need a monitor either. I already have 2 27" monitors im running, one for each computer. I've been debating throwing my 42" 1080 tv sitting on my floor to use for my regular computer and the two 27" monitors for gaming aswell.
Edited by Johnn999 - 6/23/16 at 1:18am
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I'm waiting on the asrock taichi board for x99 since they have two m.2 ports. For games you won't need more than sata ssd's though if you want instant loading times check out the samsung 961 m.2's that should be released this next week. They deal with the heat problems their 950's had and come in 1TB for only around $500. Or you can plan for a 128GB m.2 for your OS.

U.2 ports on the newer boards are the same nvme ssd that uses pcie 3.0 x4 in a 2.5" form factor instead of the m.2 form factor but only intel has any out so who knows if that will even take off that well considering samsung's newer m.2's should deal with the heat problems under load.

3200c14 g.skill tridentz ram works well on the 5820k and 5930k if the IMC is strong enough otherwise you will have to run ram at around 2133 to 2666 if you don't get a strong IMC on your cpu. The new broadwell x99's I've read run 3333 ram better than 3200. High speed ram will improve your minimum fps. I've read even though one of the perks to x99 is to run quad channel ram you can run dual channel (two sticks) and save some money with little to no impact to gaming. For just gaming though you may want to research z170 platforms and which ram runs best. There are more options for both itx and matx on z170 than x99. Always check the boards qvl for ram compatability.

I'm planning on getting the $200 r480 gpu from amd as a placeholder until hbm2 releases since I'd rather spend big on hbm2 instead of gddr5. You could always buy a 1080 gtx now and try to sell it later as well or whichever gpu you buy once you want to upgrade to hbm2.

Monitor, I would get a 1440p 144hz IPS. Freesync will be cheaper and once you are able to push fps on ultra past 90 fps you won't need any kind of adaptive sync. As said earlier 4k is only noticable the further away from the screen you are and as such the larger the screen you get. less than 34" screen just get a 1440p.

You might want to stick to air cooling since even the good open loop aio's like the swifttech eventually need some kind of maintence if I'm remembering correctly or just learn about custom open loops. A good air cooler is the noctua d15 or d15s depending on which board you get, check their website for compatability.

If you only want a board with one m.2 check out the new x99 gigabyte boards. The ultra gaming is a nice one. It doesn't have as nice of software as asus boards but gigabytes hardware and layout is slightly better for its cost.
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