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Originally Posted by Crazy9000 View Post

I doubt anyone at intel thinks it's "unfair". The problem really is that it's not millions, it's a billion.

If Intel has to pay $1m a year to lawyers to keep avoiding the fine, it will be at least 1000 years before that was a bad financial decision.

Which is why there should be hefty interest charged to prevent stalling tactics. It's one thing to appeal. It's another to appeal - and be denied for 11 years.
post #32 of 121
I guess what we have learned from this is when you do get a fine make it big so that you never have to pay it whether you can or cannot afford to pay the fine is then irrelevant too.
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Which is why there should be hefty interest charged to prevent stalling tactics. It's one thing to appeal. It's another to appeal - and be denied for 11 years.

Or some other penalties that would end up costing them huge, and would force them to pay.

I mean heck, even if they are paying $10m in lawyers and related fees per year- that's basically only 1% interest $1bill. Not bad...
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Welcome to the US justice system.

I'm pretty sure AMD's own lawyers are doing everything possible to end this, but the system allows for & encourages delay tactics. "Due process" it's called, somewhat ironically.

EDIT: Actually, not just US, ain't it? I'm surprised at the delay in other jurisdictions.
Edited by infranoia - 6/22/16 at 5:15pm
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Or some other penalties that would end up costing them huge, and would force them to pay.

I mean heck, even if they are paying $10m in lawyers and related fees per year- that's basically only 1% interest $1bill. Not bad...

Personally, if I had the power I'd charge them 10% interest for every year past the 1st 5 years. 5 years is enough time for them to try appealing multiple times legitimately.
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Originally Posted by infranoia View Post

Welcome to the US justice system.

I'm pretty sure AMD's own lawyers are doing everything possible to end this, but the system allows for & encourages delay tactics. "Due process" it's called, somewhat ironically.

EDIT: Actually, not just US, ain't it? I'm surprised at the delay in other jurisdictions.

It's not just the US, this is happening with their UK fine too.
Edited by DIYDeath - 6/22/16 at 5:18pm
post #36 of 121
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Originally Posted by Dargonplay View Post

Brilliant Intel, Brilliant.

After 11 years inflation will allow Intel to pay 30 to 40% less money for the same fine, maybe they're trying to drag this off until 2030 when inflation would probably mean they paying just 10% of the original fine.

This is what came into my mind. Is the amount absolute?
Damn intel, I thought they've changed.
post #37 of 121
This honestly makes me look at my 4690k with some disgust. At least I bought it second hand and didnt directly support Intel. I really hope Zen can push out some good numbers. AMD really needs a double punch.
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This honestly makes me look at my 4690k with some disgust. At least I bought it second hand and didnt directly support Intel. I really hope Zen can push out some good numbers. AMD really needs a double punch.

Pretty much in same proposition. I have stooped buying Intel CPUs.
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post #39 of 121
A normal citizen gets a fine and doesn't pay: huge interest penalties, even sent to jail if they don't show up in court, wages garnished, bank accounts raided.

A company doesn't pay a billion dollar fine: frick'n nothing happens for years.

This is the sad state of legal systems around the world.

Corporations want to be recognized as people, yet they don't want the same punishments as people.
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Welcome to the US justice system.

I'm pretty sure AMD's own lawyers are doing everything possible to end this, but the system allows for & encourages delay tactics. "Due process" it's called, somewhat ironically.

EDIT: Actually, not just US, ain't it? I'm surprised at the delay in other jurisdictions.

That 'due process' that Americans enjoy also prevents the Gov't from doing unsavory stuff such as arbitrarily denying you a right (voting, free speech) or just being shuttered off to prison without a trial.

If in fact Intel is purposely delaying the fact, Intel could be held in contempt of court, which can actually increase it's fine. Also, AMD then can ask the courts for Intel to actually pay THEIR legal team AND fee's etc for such a maneuver.
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