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Originally Posted by KarathKasun View Post

Its the same legal system pretty much anywhere.

The US inherited its legal system from the UK/England.

Well that.. sucks. And here I thought that somewhere the court systems weren't rigged. It would have been nice if the only thing inherited was the wearing of wigs. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by Namwons View Post

if i were AMD, i would pull my x64 license to Intel lol

Then Intel pulls the x86 license and neither of them can make CPUs.
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Then Intel pulls the x86 license and neither of them can make CPUs.

But can they? Wasnt the x86 awarded as the result of another lawsuit AMD won against Intel?
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But can they? Wasnt the x86 awarded as the result of another lawsuit AMD won against Intel?

IIRC it was a mandatory cross-licensing agreement plus the requirement to negotiate "in good faith" for the x86 license with anyone who purchased AMD or VIA.
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IIRC it was a mandatory cross-licensing agreement plus the requirement to negotiate "in good faith" for the x86 license with anyone who purchased AMD or VIA.

Intel’s legal battle with AMD became a perpetual drain on resources for both parties. By 1994, Intel had navigated the arbitration along its long journey up to the Supreme Court of California. The Supreme Court awarded AMD “a permanent, nonexclusive and royalty-free license to any Intel intellectual property embodied in the Am386” and “a two-year extension of certain patent and copyright licenses . . . related to the Am386.” AMD v. Intel, 885 P.2d at 998–99

From how I read it, Intel cant stop AMD from using x86, but from what I know AMD made a deal with Intel to let them use AMD64.
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Originally Posted by FallenFaux View Post

The criminal Anti-trust fines that Intel paid to the US, EU, Japan, etc.. are unrelated to this. AMD filed a civil suit against Intel in 2004 and the judgement was in AMD's favor for 1.25 Billion in damages.

It's entirely related. Did you read his article?

If you go to his source. This is the EU antitrust fine.

i.e 1.06 billion euro's = 1.2 billion usd. AMD gets none of this.This is the antitrust fine.

"The court cases were settled in 2009, in the US Intel agreed to pay AMD $1.25 billion USD to settle all outstanding court cases in the US and several overseas."

"In the UK there was a seperate court case which also went against Intel, the courts there requiring Intel to pay AMD €1.06bn, the largest ever fine in the UK. Since then Intel has been fighting tooth and nail to find a way not to pay the fine and while they have not succeeded in their legal battle they have succeeded in not paying AMD one single cent. "

Intel already paid the 1.25 billion dollar lawsuit because that was a settlement and it was acceptable to them(they got away cheap). Both parties settled on this amount and it's why global foundries exists today. In addition to the 1.25billion dollars, AMD was allowed to sell it's foundary business and wasn't required to produce their CPU's to keep their x86 licence.

This was one of the sources for the PCper article.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2462397/intel-is-still-fighting-that-eur106bn-amd-antitrust-fine-from-six-years-ago


1.06 million euros = 1.45 billion(past exchange rate) = 1.2 billion(todays exchange rate). The pcper author is a goof and didn't read his own source or wrote an article and purposely mistaken the details to get more hits. Even the inquirer got it right and knows this is an antitrust fine, not a lawsuit verdict where AMD is entitled to 1.2 billion dollars.

Come on people, show that you atleast read these articles with some knowledge.
Edited by tajoh111 - 6/22/16 at 8:33pm
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When are they ever going to pay up? headscratch.gif

Sometime after AMD goes bankrupt or is bought out and even then it will first be in litigation for another 20 years rolleyes.gif
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I think Intel already settled with AMD. That 1.06B Euro is Anti-trust fine, which doesn't go to AMD.
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If they havent paid in 9 years they should tac on intrest give the intrest of unpaid fine to amd since money grubbing contries want bulk of cash least put a intrest on unpaid fines and give that to amd lord knows they sure could use the money.
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Which is why there should be hefty interest charged to prevent stalling tactics. It's one thing to appeal. It's another to appeal - and be denied for 11 years.
Now you know why lawyers likes to play the delay game.

it is basically most of our judiciary system are broken, open for abuse.
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