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So, I'm damaging the industry by supporting AAA devs when I buy keys from resellers?
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So, I'm damaging the industry by supporting AAA devs when I buy keys from resellers?

 

Iunno, probably. Meanie.

     
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So many people are quick to jump to the defense of the dev and assume the evil company is trying to ruin the gaming industry. A little research is your friend.

https://www.g2a.co/tinyBuild-fraud-allegation-g2a-statement
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All G2A asked, was to cooperate with tinyBuild to rectify the issue, which is the list of the keys they deemed without any verification, as stolen. Only then can G2A compare these keys against the confidential G2A marketplace database and report those findings back to tinyBuild. Unfortunately tinyBuild never came back with the answers to resolve the issue.

In reference to the $450 thousand dollars potentially lost for tinyBuild:

Why did tinyBuild refer only to the highest price point in their product history? While on the real market you can buy their products in a bundle on an 85% off discount as sourced from https://steamdb.info/app/207140/, https://isthereanydeal.com/. Finding a better medium price here would give a true overview. TinyBuild should explain to the media why they omitted their sales data from the revenue projection. The question the gaming industry should be asking is, why did tinyBuild never come back to us with a list of codes that should be taken down from the G2A’s Marketplace?

There's alot more. It's an interesting read for all those who have a strong opinion on this particular case.

Edit: Maybe this link should be posted in the op, as it's G2A's official response. Having both sides to the story might help better inform people about this particular case.
Edited by InvaderMig - 6/23/16 at 11:28pm
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So many people are quick to jump to the defense of the dev and assume the evil company is trying to ruin the gaming industry. A little research is your friend.

https://www.g2a.co/tinyBuild-fraud-allegation-g2a-statement
There's alot more. It's an interesting read for all those who have a strong opinion on this particular case.

Edit: Maybe this link should be posted in the op, as it's G2A's official response. Having both sides to the story might help better inform people about this particular case.

I think you need to do a little research yourself.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/2/9/8006693/the-truth-behind-those-mysteriously-cheap-gray-market-game-codes

G2A's statement doesn't change anything, or add any new info.
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I think you need to do a little research yourself.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/2/9/8006693/the-truth-behind-those-mysteriously-cheap-gray-market-game-codes

G2A's statement doesn't change anything, or add any new info.

So people use stolen credit cards to buy from Origin and Ubisoft, then sell them on G2A and Kinguin. That's the first time I've ever heard of anyone using stole credit cards to buy anything from anywhere, be it a shady company like G2A or a reputable retailer. I mean stuff like that never happens on Ebay, or Craigslist, or even Amazon for that matter. Nope, never happens. rolleyes.gif

I've also read another story where a Dev got scammed out of free keys for responding to fake emails posing as popular youtubers and those very same keys went up on G2A. But you're right though, all the culpability falls on squarely on G2A's shoulders. The fact that this particular dev falsely inflated the revenue lost, and refused to work with G2A to rectify the issue doesn't change a thing. That information is completely irrelevant to this particular case. I'm glad you were here to clear that up for me and everyone else who will clearly now find this information completely irrelevant. thumb.gif
Edited by InvaderMig - 6/24/16 at 12:06am
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digital=\= physical
this isn't ebay

i don't entirely blame G2A, its the people exploiting the system.
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digital=\=phyiscal
this isnt ebay

i don't entirely blame G2A, its the people exploiting the system.

Not only is it people exploiting the system, this particular dev pulled that 450k number out of his backside, and did not cooperate to with G2A to help rectify the situation. But don't tell that to he guy above me. Apparently none of those facts are relevant, because G2A is a the devil, and all devs are the shining light of goodness. wink.gif
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it doesn't matter where they buy said things, any form of "resell" will hurt the main company which made them, regardless of whether its digital or non-digital.
If the alternative is not buying the game at all (because the price is too high) reselling on places like G2A helps the company. Lower price = more sales = potentially more profit. This is economy 101.
Keep in mind that the vast majority of keys on G2A are legit, meaning that game devs get paid for them.


As for the stolen keys, there are many parties who hold more responsibility, including banks, credit card owners and the "mass sellers" who accept payment with stolen credit cards.
Blaming just G2A isn't fair. It's a marketplace like many others. Even eBay used to have lots of stolen game keys, until they practically stopped allowing keys (though you can still find them there).
Why should G2A close down and hurt the vast majority of legit users, because a few scammers use the marketplace?
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All I have to say is that if you support black/grey market goods, dont cry when your identity gets stolen. thumb.gif

The "legit" keys are bought with stolen money and resold at a lower price to launder the money. Its that simple. They are an e-fence.
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