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Sell me new titles at $40 through steam and i won't go to 3rd parties to get a better deal. rolleyes.gif
Even if said deal hurts developers (which, in turn, hurt the consumer down the road) and/or are the result of theft?
    
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Sell me new titles at $40 through steam and i won't go to 3rd parties to get a better deal. rolleyes.gif
If everyone did this there we see the "glorious" return of region blocking.
This kind of practices nearly (and probably has) bankrupts developers before.

http://unknownworlds.com/blog/beware-shady-key-resellers-and-discount-steam-keys/
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We deactivated these keys because they keys were purchased with credit cards where the card-holder initiated a “charge-back.” A charge-back is a consumer protection mechanism offered by payment companies such as Visa, allowing a card-holder to dispute a charge on their credit card statement. This means we never received payment for the game. In fact, we were charged a fee by the card issuer for the charge-back. For these 1,341 keys, these fees totalled around $30,000.
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Im ok with G2A, GMG or any other website that sells keys cheaper, it helps those that dont want to/cant pay for overpriced stuff.
post #94 of 260
G2A is a legitimate marketplace..

If Hackers decide to steal credit cards, buy them @ humble bundle, then SELL on G2A..

Even if G2A did not exist, the same event would occur, only the hackers would sell elsewhere like EBAY, or any of the other hundreds of game key marketplaces WORLD WIDE..

Did we all forget, Many things on ebay are stolen? Ever bought a used Cellphone, shipped from a low income, high crime area? Odds are it was a stolen phone..

Anytime sellers advertise Clean IMEI, Yea, stolen phone 100%


G2A did absolutely nothing wrong..



The only people at Fault are..


Developers, for not locking down their game, negligent sales channel, sales partners
Hackers, for stealing the credit cards/ game keys
Bundle sellers, who let so many purchases get through per card number unchecked..
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Now that I read the entire first post, it was quite condescending indeed. thumb.gif

There are legitimate (not illegal) market forces that create sites like G2A, and to say there is no argument over them not existing, is extremely close-minded.

Like saying how it is certain the world will explode if Great Britain exits from the EU... it is happening, and the world is still in one piece.biggrin.gif

What are those legitimate merket sources..?

Little kids that can't do without the next up-and-coming game & have no job but need the game..?

Why even have resellers..? They are utterly pointless, as if your browser & CC doesn't work on the official site.
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Serious question: How is using a VPN to trick the store (Origin, Steam, etc) any less nefarious than buying from a key site? You're still paying less than retail and arguably breaking the terms of service.
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Serious question: How is using a VPN to trick the store (Origin, Steam, etc) any less nefarious than buying from a key site? You're still paying less than retail and arguably breaking the terms of service.

On G2A, many keys were bought with a stolen credit card, which gets charged back and the developer gets no money. With a VPN trick, or a key site that's getting their keys overseas as a way to make them cheaper, the developer is at least receiving the money they would if they sold them overseas.
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On G2A, many keys were bought with a stolen credit card, which gets charged back and the developer gets no money. With a VPN trick, or a key site that's getting their keys overseas as a way to make them cheaper, the developer is at least receiving the money they would if they sold them overseas.
They don't see money from second hand sales either. Should we all gather outside of our local gamestop with pitchfork and torch in hand?
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They don't see money from second hand sales either. Should we all gather outside of our local gamestop with pitchfork and torch in hand?

With second hand sales they still sold a copy of the game. Anyways, the moral decision is up to you. It's just good to know what you're buying.
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Easyfix: Ban the cdkeys where you get a chargeback / fraud. Simple. Tinybuild is yelling at the wall telling it to move here... its completely within their means to fix the problem and completely destroy G2As business as fraudulent. Would people keep buying from the website if 33% of the keys were known to be bad and it was a gamble? Absolutely not.

Developers aren't doing enough to secure their business plain and simple. Will is cost a little extra perhaps to employ someone to do this? Perhaps. Worth it? 45k < 450k.
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