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post #541 of 991
That AMD set the voltage so high for the sake of yields.
I have yet to see a sample that doesn't drop at least to 1030 in voltage, so the samples that need such a high voltage are rare.

This means that at stock configuration, the 1060 will be faster and more power efficient, and this will be reflected in reviews. When in reality, an undervolted 480 is pretty much the same perf and perf/watt.
960 outsold the 380 despite being crap in comparison, how do you think the market will react to the 1060 being better?

AMD needs to improve their image to the general consumer, the one that doesn't overclock or undervolt, and this stock configuration is not how you do it.
post #542 of 991
Youd rather it be too low and repeat all the black screen of death problems we had with hawaii?

there is a bootup tuning algorithm that adjust for age and component degradation.

its probably just overly aggressive.

I wouldn't read too much into it.

it takes literally two seconds to turn it down.
post #543 of 991
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Originally Posted by The Mac View Post

Youd rather it be too low and repeat all the black screen of death problems we had with hawaii?

there is a bootup tuning algorithm that adjust for age and component degradation.

its probably just overly aggressive.

I wouldn't read too much into it.

it takes literally two seconds to turn it down.
Then they should look into the algorithm and see if they can fix it in drivers.

As for the blackscreen issues, that's why you have binning. The chips that don't make the cut don't become 480's, it's simple.
post #544 of 991
im sure they will, but not really the most important thing right now.
post #545 of 991
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Originally Posted by lolerk52 View Post

That AMD set the voltage so high for the sake of yields.
I have yet to see a sample that doesn't drop at least to 1030 in voltage, so the samples that need such a high voltage are rare.

This means that at stock configuration, the 1060 will be faster and more power efficient, and this will be reflected in reviews. When in reality, an undervolted 480 is pretty much the same perf and perf/watt.
960 outsold the 380 despite being crap in comparison, how do you think the market will react to the 1060 being better?

AMD needs to improve their image to the general consumer, the one that doesn't overclock or undervolt, and this stock configuration is not how you do it.

The reason i stay away from nvidia...

https://youtu.be/2IcRF201cEc?t=15m50s

the 1060 will be slower than RX 480 after sometime. you will see... history always repeat
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post #546 of 991
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im sure they will, but not really the most important thing right now.
It kind of is, considering it's the difference between losing to the 1060 in the upcoming benchmarks, or coming out on top.
AMD needs this victory.
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The reason i stay away from nvidia...

https://youtu.be/2IcRF201cEc?t=15m50s

the 1060 will be slower than RX 480 after sometime. you will see... history always repeat
I have no doubt about this personally, heck they increased the performance by 4% in the first week!
But the general consumer doesn't look at that.
Edited by lolerk52 - 7/8/16 at 8:27am
post #547 of 991
Experienced users aren't going to buy a gpu based on stock performance, they will heavily consider OC ability. Regular users who don't OC won't care a bit about a 1k FS score difference and will buy based in budget.

Right now it looks like the RX480 is in the lead for both user groups.
 
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post #548 of 991
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Experienced users aren't going to buy a gpu based on stock performance, they will heavily consider OC ability. Regular users who don't OC won't care a bit about a 1k FS score difference and will buy based in budget.

Right now it looks like the RX480 is in the lead for both user groups.

You forgot lots of people only buy nVdia cards.
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post #549 of 991
that will change if AMD gains significant market share.
post #550 of 991
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Originally Posted by TheLAWNOOB View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

Experienced users aren't going to buy a gpu based on stock performance, they will heavily consider OC ability. Regular users who don't OC won't care a bit about a 1k FS score difference and will buy based in budget.

Right now it looks like the RX480 is in the lead for both user groups.

You forgot lots of people only buy nVdia cards.

Can't save the fanboys, can only worry about the rest of us who choose and buy responsibly.
 
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