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post #11 of 274
If this is true this is not good at all.

So we're looking prices above MSRP and also potential stock issues? This is not a good GPU launch at all.
post #12 of 274
My 1080 shall arrive mid to late july frown.gif
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post #13 of 274
Where's the news ?

I don't see any
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post #14 of 274
This site really is laughable. He might be right about Pascal supply issues, I don't know. I can't read the article. But does Charlie really think that his analysis is so insightful, so in-depth and correct that access to his vitriolic rants is worth paying a subscription? That's one heck of ego.
post #15 of 274
Isn't this the same guy that said the gtx 480 and 470 were impossible to produce? Also, OP that's some terrible formatting on your part.
post #16 of 274
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Originally Posted by magnek View Post

lol @ Charlie's paywall

GDDR5X didn't reach volume production until this Monday, so I'd give it till late August before I pass judgement on whether there's indeed a supply issue or not.

I suspect you are right and if true it is shameful that Nvidia went on ahead with what they KNEW was gonna be a total paper launch anyway, just to beat AMD to release (especially when they were also well aware that AMD wasn't even trying to compete with Pascal anyway).
post #17 of 274
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Originally Posted by airfathaaaaa View Post

needs a sub on semiaccurate

SemiAccurate is hearing of a serious problem affecting Nvidia’s GPU supply. If this turns out to be what SemiAccurate’s sources are describing, it may change the GPU market for the rest of the year.

Note: The following is for professional and student level subscribers.

Disclosures: Charlie Demerjian and Stone Arch Networking Services, Inc. have no consulting relationships, investment relationships, or hold any investment positions with any of the companies mentioned in this report.
http://semiaccurate.com/2016/06/24/serious-manufacturing-problem-hits-nvidia-consumer-gpus/

and here is the forum thread
https://semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9208
Just quote it OMG. Copy paste duh.
post #18 of 274
For a moment there I was very surprised that Nvidia dodged the Taiwan earthquake bullet.

But then, maybe they were winged after all.
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Isn't this the same guy that said the gtx 480 and 470 were impossible to produce? Also, OP that's some terrible formatting on your part.

 

In his defense Fermi had atrocious yields. So bad that they pretty much gave up with the full die and it only made an appearance for the consumer market as the GTX 580.

   
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Charlie is well-known to hate Nvidia in the past, although some of his newer (last year) posts forecasted that Nvidia was almost a year ahead of AMD on the first to the die-shrink.

I would say there are either two things going on at Nvidia, both raise some concern.

1. They are having yield issues or TSMC is not making the chips fast enough
or
2. They are artificially increasing demand by keeping stock at extremely low levels, allowing the 1080 and 1070 to be sold far above MSRP

Both are possible, though I side with the latter reasoning.

I agree 2 is more likely. Finfet in general improves yields a significant amount versus earlier planar nodes, which makes up for part of the wafer cost to some extent.

If Nvidia is able to produce gp100 at this point, even if it is single digits, gp104 should not be a problem because it is vastly less complex and without the HBM stuff.

GDDR5x could be a bottleneck as most were expecting this at the end of the year for cards, not end of q2.

I am guessing, Nvidia is holding back stock to help deplete their maxwell parts. There is still way too much maxwell cards on the market and part of this is because of Polaris. Polaris 10 prehype and pricing makes it below most of the cards on clearance right now. This is making people wait, and I think Nvidia might just have to bite the bullet and release gp206 early or do an inventory write off and drop pascal prices further.

AMD on the other hand has likely stopped 28nm chips for a while because they have less invested into it at this point. They milked their rebrands for all their worth and wanted to focus on finfet. This means there is less of a write off for them at this point, and they are more willing to release new cards because there is going to be less canibalization of their cards.
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