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It is I believe, it ends up being more expensive but you can space it out and 'trial' it or move to the next GPU.

That's pretty cool! I would rather just buy my cards but I can see the allure of such a site for those who only need a month's worth of performance before moving onto something else...
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It is I believe, it ends up being more expensive but you can space it out and 'trial' it or move to the next GPU.

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That's pretty cool! I would rather just buy my cards but I can see the allure of such a site for those who only need a month's worth of performance before moving onto something else...

Pretty much. I see this as being most useful for those who just sold their GPU waiting for the next big thing, so they have something to tide them over in the meantime.
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Pretty much. I see this as being most useful for those who just sold their GPU waiting for the next big thing, so they have something to tide them over in the meantime.

I could also see the nefarious possibilities that some users here have likely gotten away with in the past. "Rent" a Titan X or some other halo card around release and pretend to be a baller while posting benches in the benching section only to return the card after a month and go back to running a 270X. Then just claim that you "resold" it to move on to your next baller GPU purchase... rolleyes.gif
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BINGO

It's called artificial scarcity.
To obtain maximum profits, producers may be restricting production rather than ensuring the maximum utilization of resources. This strategy of restricting production by firms in order to obtain profits in a capitalist system or mixed economy is known as creating artificial scarcity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_scarcity

I don't claim to know squat about wholesale/retail but won't the cards got sold to the retailer at a fixed price? Meaning the extra $$$ go into the retailers pocket not Nvidia's? Or is it some kind of split of the sale price with an agreed on minimum? Thanks.
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I don't claim to know squat about wholesale/retail but won't the cards got sold to the retailer at a fixed price? Meaning the extra $$$ go into the retailers pocket not Nvidia's? Or is it some kind of split of the sale price with an agreed on minimum? Thanks.

There are usually contracts with manufacturers (for example newegg might have contracts with evga, gigabyte, nvidia, asus, etc etc etc) where they get the cards for a certain amount of money, and they are selling them for a certain amount of money. If the cards price is reduced (if lets say nvidia suddenly say "1080 MSPR is now 100$") then newegg gets a "refund" on that price cut as part of the contract.

Split on profit (over X amount of money per sale) is possible but not usually with very big retailers who just get a large amount of cards per order and get a fixed price per unit, and some smaller retailers aren't paying the distributers until the card is actually being sold. There are a lot of different types of contracts so you can't really be sure what each retailer has signed with manufacturers or distributers.

Usually contracts do have a certain minimum price in order to keep the brand name and price tag. For example if the MSPR is 700$ but some retailer actually gets the card for 400$, they might sale it for 600$, which cause other retailers to take a hit on sales, and then they demand the manufacture to reduce the MSPR price globally, which means less income for him since he will have to start selling the cards for other retailers for 300$ since they want their own 100% profits to stay.
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How long for a bigger Pascal Die?

I'm seeing some 1080s for 699$ and I'm about to bite, I don't know how much longer I can restrain my self from giving Nvidia my money through their shady bussiness model because I really want to upgrade my main RIG.

Think we will see a Titan Pascal in August?
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How long for a bigger Pascal Die?

I'm seeing some 1080s for 699$ and I'm about to bite, I don't know how much longer I can restrain my self from giving Nvidia my money through their shady bussiness model because I really want to upgrade my main RIG.

Think we will see a Titan Pascal in August?

Well it took 8 and a half months to go from the 980 to the 980ti.

I'm not even going to bother mentioning the titan release date as those cards are kind of a joke.
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How long for a bigger Pascal Die?

I'm seeing some 1080s for 699$ and I'm about to bite, I don't know how much longer I can restrain my self from giving Nvidia my money through their shady bussiness model because I really want to upgrade my main RIG.

Think we will see a Titan Pascal in August?

Probably not until Feb or March, at the earliest
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Probably not until Feb or March, at the earliest
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Well it took 8 and a half months to go from the 980 to the 980ti.

I'm not even going to bother mentioning the titan release date as those cards are kind of a joke.

Don't think the 1080 is worth it for such a long time frame, 8 months more without a real upgrade is frustrating to say the least, i really thought this gen was the one for 1440p 144Hz Ultra no MSAA or Gimpworks.

Are there even GTX 1080s Extreme that can hit 2.4GHz on Air? Because that would make for a happy upgrade coming from a Fury X.

I honestly wouldn't mind paying for a Titan right now, I would however mind paying 700$ for a small gain in performance that still doesn't allow me to reach my goal.
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Don't think the 1080 is worth it for such a long time frame, 8 months more without a real upgrade is frustrating to say the least, i really thought this gen was the one for 1440p 144Hz Ultra no MSAA or Gimpworks.

Are there even GTX 1080s Extreme that can hit 2.4GHz on Air? Because that would make for a happy upgrade coming from a Fury X.

There is no real GPU which was really "worth it" for a span of 8 months to a year. There are mostly upgrades during that time. The whole question is whether you are willing to pay for it now, you can wait, or you will consider buying a 1080 second hand once the 1080 ti comes out, etc etc. Everyone makes their own choice. Many just can't wait to upgrade, others can wait a year or two.
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