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Can we do 25-way CrossFire X to get more performance than the GTX 1080?
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Well that's good news since you would need like three of them to match a 1080.
Well performance figures aren't out so i'm assume you're talking about matching the price of the 1080? Yes, you'd need three 480's to match the price of one 1080.

As far as performance goes, we're still working with mostly speculation. We do know the die size is roughly 2/3's of the 1080. We know it's not clocked very high, so it's probably a dense chip that will scale nicely as it's overclocked. Two should handily exceed the performance of a single 1080, bringing us back to the dynamic sought after by Cypress and Cayman.

Or, if you just want to slander them, sure. "Like totally 3 whole 480's just to match the 1080."

Some of you guys are approaching Apply-fan level defense of your brand preference. You're not doing very much good for the good name of the PC master race.
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You underestimate how bad AMD's brand has gotten to this point. I know lots of people who just assume anything made by NVIDIA is just better and will dismiss the 480 as junk because its a $200 AMD card. More for us, I guess.

Daily reminder that these GPUs both existed and were awesome.

Now, did AMD get wins with either of these? No. However, they offered two GPUs that traded blows with Nvidia's options. The GTX 280 launched at $650 and the 260 launched at $400 (though to be fair Nvidia intended it to quickly drop to $350). Then AMD comes in. A 4850 cost $200 less than a 260, and a 4870 cost $350 less than a 280. At worst, the $300 AMD GPU tied the $400 Nvidia GPU, and at best it destroyed the $650 Nvidia GPU.

Small die strategy is a good one, but unfortunately with multi GPU support getting crappier by the day and monolithic dies needed for the server/workstation market, AMD doesn't have that luxury.
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Well performance figures aren't out so i'm assume you're talking about matching the price of the 1080? Yes, you'd need three 480's to match the price of one 1080.

As far as performance goes, we're still working with mostly speculation. We do know the die size is roughly 2/3's of the 1080. We know it's not clocked very high, so it's probably a dense chip that will scale nicely as it's overclocked. Two should handily exceed the performance of a single 1080, bringing us back to the dynamic sought after by Cypress and Cayman.

Or, if you just want to slander them, sure. "Like totally 3 whole 480's just to match the 1080."

Some of you guys are approaching Apply-fan level defense of your brand preference. You're not doing very much good for the good name of the PC master race.

Yeah, anyone that thinks those in the market for a 1080 won't buy this are wrong. I was a day one FE buyer.. but because of artificial shortages and price hikes I am going to buy a 480 on Monday (or Tuesday) whenever they release.
 
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Yeah, anyone that thinks those in the market for a 1080 won't buy this are wrong. I was a day one FE buyer.. but because of artificial shortages and price hikes I am going to buy a 480 on Monday (or Tuesday) whenever they release.

I'm assuming the 480 is either going in a backup rig or is simply a stopgap card?

I'm just puzzled why a 1080 buyer would be interested in a 480, unless it's for a secondary rig or as a stopgap solution for the short term.
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Well that's good news since you would need like three of them to match a 1080.

If you have a 1080 . . . i assure you it won't beat my 2 290s.

at least in Firestrikes. You need ln2 or 1080 Ti.

You mean in price. My bad.
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I'm assuming the 480 is either going in a backup rig or is simply a stopgap card?

I'm just puzzled why a 1080 buyer would be interested in a 480, unless it's for a secondary rig or as a stopgap solution for the short term.
It's probably because CF 480 are faster than a 1080 and cheaper. But, we know you're going to reply with "lol all those CF issues", to which I would say, I haven't experienced CF or SLI issues for the last 3 years, to which you will say "lol are you joking?" and I'll ask for specifics on CF issues and you'll ignore the post and quote a different person and start a new argument on how the 1080 is the end all be all.

Let's just call this a stalemate for now.
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Yeah, anyone that thinks those in the market for a 1080 won't buy this are wrong. I was a day one FE buyer.. but because of artificial shortages and price hikes I am going to buy a 480 on Monday (or Tuesday) whenever they release.
With a 980 I'd say a 480 will be more of a sidegrade for you. Dual 480's will be cheaper and probably perform better than a 1080. That would be my choice, but some people can't stomach multi-GPU setups for whatever reason. I've had dual-GPU setups since 2009 and I've never had a problem outside of a few choice titles. That bothers some more than others, I guess.

Outside of that, the 1080 is a meaningful upgrade to some people. Personally, I think it'll be a very depressing upgrade in a short time. First generation big-die chips are strong. Midsized dies are also strong until the end of a node, usually, if memory demand doesn't explode. The last decade or so, AMD has been good about offering lots of VRAM and bandwidth for the same price on midsized dies, so I've been favoring them. I'll probably wait for Vega and big Pascal this generation because I'm afraid it'll be another 5 years before we get a new node again.

Both the 1080 and 480 are bad deals for someone like me, and probably to someone like you. That "Founder's Edition" thing should be a joke to anyone. Waiting is an option.
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It's probably because CF 480 are faster than a 1080 and cheaper. But, we know you're going to reply with "lol all those CF issues", to which I would say, I haven't experienced CF or SLI issues for the last 3 years, to which you will say "lol are you joking?" and I'll ask for specifics on CF issues and you'll ignore the post and quote a different person and start a new argument on how the 1080 is the end all be all.

Let's just call this a stalemate for now.

Well you got me there redface.gif

Minus the "1080 is the end all be all" part, but yes otherwise 100% spot on.

/s
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Well you got me there redface.gif

Minus the "1080 is the end all be all" part, but yes otherwise 100% spot on.

/s

Actually "1080 is the end all be all" is wrong in Dx12, which should be the main focus of the future games rolleyes.gif

1080 would be perfect if nVidia steped up their game in A-sync though
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