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Originally Posted by Gunderman456 View Post

A discerning mind would not believe this marketing drivel.

A 8800GT cost $250 and now an equivalent card costs $700+!

Where did it all go so wrong?

8800 GT equivalent is really GTX1070. Stuff that changed is Inflation, Cooling, PCB quality, Software Cost.

GTX970 is a better comparison. Problem is GTX1080. That one just does not many any sense in past lineups.
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post #42 of 378
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Originally Posted by Gunderman456 View Post

A discerning mind would not believe this marketing drivel.

A 8800GT cost $250 and now an equivalent card costs $700+!

Where did it all go so wrong?

AMD provoked Nvidia with the $550 MSRP 7970(how many people forget that when accusing Nvidia of violating the sacred "$500 flagship card" rule) and have dropped the ball ever since on keeping the market competitive and the price down.
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8800 GT equivalent is really GTX1070. Stuff that changed is Inflation, Cooling, PCB quality, Software Cost.

GTX970 is a better comparison. Problem is GTX1080. That one just does not many any sense in past lineups.

Nothing both companies are doing lately makes any sense and makes me want to buy. mad.gif
 
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AMD provoked Nvidia with the $550 MSRP 7970(how many people forget that when accusing Nvidia of violating the sacred "$500 flagship card" rule) and have dropped the ball ever since on keeping the market competitive and the price down.

Yeah HD 7970 was priced high but dont you think HD 7970 really was a $550 card? Titan X, GTX780, Ti, 980 never could do what 7970 did. AMD sow that small die strat was not working for them. At the time I bealive It was going against GTX580 3GB which has $599 MSRP.
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AMD provoked Nvidia with the $550 MSRP 7970(how many people forget that when accusing Nvidia of violating the sacred "$500 flagship card" rule) and have dropped the ball ever since on keeping the market competitive and the price down.

That is why I waited for the price of the HD 7990 to drop to $600+ before I bought.
 
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AMD provoked Nvidia with the $550 MSRP 7970(how many people forget that when accusing Nvidia of violating the sacred "$500 flagship card" rule) and have dropped the ball ever since on keeping the market competitive and the price down.

>$500 flagship cards existed long before 7970, dating to the days of 6-series and R400.

And I mean if we really wanted to do that comparison, $550 was roughly a 50% jump over 6970's $370, but $999 is a 2x jump over $499.
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>$500 flagship cards existed long before 7970, dating to the days of 6-series and R400.

And I mean if we really wanted to do that comparison, $550 was roughly a 50% jump over 6970's $370, but $999 is a 2x jump over $499.

When I bought my 8800 GTX back in I think 2007, it was $570. Video card prices aren't really changing as time goes on. The tech is, though.
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AMD provoked Nvidia with the $550 MSRP 7970(how many people forget that when accusing Nvidia of violating the sacred "$500 flagship card" rule) and have dropped the ball ever since on keeping the market competitive and the price down.
You're out of your mind. Who ever heard of a $500 flagship card rule? Did you just must that up so you could accuse AMD of breaking it, or what?
In 2006 NV was trying to sell 7800 GTX's for $650, while AMD was selling the better performing 1950 XTX for $450.

Tahiti was very early to the 28nm market and completely destroyed the GTX 580. The 580 was still selling near the $500 mark and people were still buying them. AMD made money while it could, from people who weren't too biased and too stupid to see that Tahiti was the superior card. They capitalized on the market, and who knows what fabs were charging for those early 28nm products.

If you want to blame someone for the ridiculous prices today, blame yourselves. Blame anyone who bought a Titan, Titan "black", Titan "X" or whatever the hell other iterations there were for those ridiculous prices. Blame yourself for owning that "Founder's Edition" garbage. Premium pricing for premium badging, and not even premium binning. They'll all charge whatever you will pay. Stop paying more than the products are worth, and definitely stop blaming the historically better bargain brand for the fact that you're easy to take advantage of.
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Tahiti was very early to the 28nm market and completely destroyed the GTX 580. The 580 was still selling near the $500 mark and people were still buying them. AMD made money while it could, from people who weren't too biased and too stupid to see that Tahiti was the superior card. They capitalized on the market, and who knows what fabs were charging for those early 28nm products.

What you listed is the full justification for Nvidia to charge whatever they want for 1080, it is very early the the 16nm Flagship market and beats everything else in performance, who knows what fab are charging for those 16nm products of GP104 size eah rolleyes.gif
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When I bought my 8800 GTX back in I think 2007, it was $570. Video card prices aren't really changing as time goes on. The tech is, though.

Sure but the 8800 GTX was the full big G80 chip and the best you could've bought at the time (outside of the 8800 Ultra which was basically a factory OC'd 8800 GTX anyway). By contrast you needed to pay $999 for that privilege from 2013 onwards.
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