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Hearing a little more about the 3360 sensor now so wondering what it has over the 3310. Could the 3360 be considered an "upgrade" over a 3310? Any noteworthy differences?

Thanks smile.gif
Edited by etplayer - 6/25/16 at 10:40pm
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3360 = public 3366 ... ( in short form )
post #3 of 31
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Originally Posted by Klopfer View Post

3360 = public 3366 ... ( in short form )

Haven't used a 3366 as I mostly look at Zowie/Roccat these days for cross-platform support, mostly asking for when more 3360's are around and I can look to see what implementations I might like - depending what benefit(s) the 3360's have.
Edited by etplayer - 6/25/16 at 10:58pm
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aren't there already 50 threads about this? or maybe i'm going crazy.

i consider the 3360 to be a straight upgrade to the 3310:
less motion delay
higher maximum framerate
higher cpi
less ripple/noise
i think it's also (even) more configurable?
am i missing something?

anyway.
in practice, the difference is not that big, as you can imagine. but that's just the point we're at right now, slowly climbing towards "perfection". technically, the 3360 is not far off, considering.
and even if there was new sensing technology that's "objectively better" than ICS, then we'd probably need a new kind of monitor as well as something non-USB that was specifically made for mouse input.
maybe one day we'll have monitors that do not render in rows and colums, and mice that don't send counts in intervals.. doppler to take it all!

anyway.
not everyone values sensor performance all that much. the 3360 is incredibly sharp and nicely responsive, but a lot of users don't even pick up the difference between it and the 3310.
meaning, nobody can really tell you what the difference is in practice, because not everyone notices it.
so you're just gonna have to try it out. sorry buddy!
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Originally Posted by Bucake View Post

aren't there already 50 threads about this? or maybe i'm going crazy.

i consider the 3360 to be a straight upgrade to the 3310:
less motion delay
higher maximum framerate
higher cpi
less ripple/noise
i think it's also (even) more configurable?
am i missing something?

anyway.
in practice, the difference is not that big, as you can imagine. but that's just the point we're at right now, slowly climbing towards "perfection". technically, the 3360 is not far off, considering.
and even if there was new sensing technology that's "objectively better" than ICS, then we'd probably need a new kind of monitor as well as something non-USB that was specifically made for mouse input.
maybe one day we'll have monitors that do not render in rows and colums, and mice that don't send counts in intervals.. doppler to take it all!

anyway.
not everyone values sensor performance all that much. the 3360 is incredibly sharp and nicely responsive, but a lot of users don't even pick up the difference between it and the 3310.
meaning, nobody can really tell you what the difference is in practice, because not everyone notices it.
so you're just gonna have to try it out. sorry buddy!

There were some other posts, I was just looking for more clarity on the differences. Sounds like a step up then even if I don't notice as such, hopefully a good implementation comes along. I'll have to check what people are saying about specific mice just to keep track. Thanks smile.gif
Edited by etplayer - 6/26/16 at 12:56am
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Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post

well

let's see how long it takes ocn to figure out what's wrong with 3360

hint: similar to g402 but multiply by 8
to clarify, it's not really something wrong, as anyone who uses _____ wouldn't care about _____ anyway
i want to see how long it takes you guys to fill in the blanks tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post

to clarify, it's not really something wrong, as anyone who uses a finalmouse wouldn't care about smoothing anyway
i want to see how long it takes you guys to fill in the blanks tongue.gif
are our 3360 dreams going to be crushed? frown.gif
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anyone who uses a finalmouse wouldn't care about smoothing
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Originally Posted by CPate View Post

CPI range was extended, but there is still zero smoothing at 2000 CPI and below. 2080 CPI and above implement 4 frames (<1ms) of smoothing in order to mitigate ripple.
..multiplied by 8? probably not.
though, high cpi / smoothing would fit the blanks biggrin.gif but.. not make a lot of sense.


at first i figured it may have something to do with the (in)accuracy of advertised cpi steps,
because there's this:
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Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post

actual dpi step = (number represented by lowest 6 bits of register 0x33) * (250/3)
but again, multiplied by 8 seems a bit much.
and it doesn't really make sense when filling it in the blanks anyway.


what else was off with the G402/G302? AM010 gurus assemble!
Edited by Bucake - 6/26/16 at 4:41am
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