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amen.
Double to that.

Technology moves so fast, you can't really expect to have "the best" for more than a few months". Something is always just around the corner, which will take a dump on your value proposition. Which is why PC gamers are always "I'll wait until card X comes out" or "the next CPU will be worth it". At the end of the day, upgrade when you need to upgrade. Plain and simple.
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To be far,
It does suck. On avg. we have less disposable income compared to our American neighbors also.

Ugh that's really sad, yet USA is the country with trilliiioooons of debt, fun how things goes, anyway let's stay on topic smile.gif

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You forgot the part where the shills will try to force them down your throat and try to convince you that you need one to max out games at anything above 720p. smile.gif

Shills..lol relax mate

Agree though the prices are nonsense so called "mid end" was already expensive, let's be honest, very expensive at 500 ish, now if it's becoming the trend to have "mid end" at 750+ then what can we expect in a few years, 1k mid end ? then 1.5k ? then 1.8k for full chip and 2199$ for a Titan, yea right, I may sound ragey but if this goes exponentially that's where we're heading, but anyway I don't really see how even 500 it could be called "mid end" lol let's forget little names I think..

It appears to me, that the *70* cards segment like the 970 and now 1070 segment offers the most value, essentially turning the x70's to "mid end" and x80's high end, the Ti's being super high-end/enthusiast, and Titans are out of league, and it never was an interesting product anyway, at least for me, so I will not even bother.

Of course this is all just words so who cares in the end, overpriced is overpriced ! we sort of needed Vega now or soon..


It will be interesting to see what value AMD really provides with their 480 though


And as for eye candy..yeah nobody says you HAVE TO you NEED TO run max details of course, people who like me are a bit maniac and like to get the most eye candy they can, of course I don't care if it means reducing shadows or barely noticeable settings, but overall I mean, I'm pretty happy when I can max stuff thumb.gif
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Ugh that's really sad, yet USA is the country with trilliiioooons of debt, fun how things goes, anyway let's stay on topic smile.gif
Shills..lol relax mate

Agree though the prices are nonsense so called "mid end" was already expensive, let's be honest, very expensive at 500 ish, now if it's becoming the trend to have "mid end" at 750+ then what can we expect in a few years, 1k mid end ? then 1.5k ? then 1.8k for full chip and 2199$ for a Titan, yea right, I may sound ragey but if this goes exponentially that's where we're heading, but anyway I don't really see how even 500 it could be called "mid end" lol let's forget little names I think..

It appears to me, that the *70* cards segment like the 970 and now 1070 segment offers the most value, essentially turning the x70's to "mid end" and x80's high end, the Ti's being super high-end/enthusiast, and Titans are out of league, and it never was an interesting product anyway, at least for me, so I will not even bother.

Of course this is all just words so who cares in the end, overpriced is overpriced ! we sort of needed Vega now or soon..


It will be interesting to see what value AMD really provides with their 480 though


And as for eye candy..yeah nobody says you HAVE TO you NEED TO run max details of course, people who like me are a bit maniac and like to get the most eye candy they can, of course I don't care if it means reducing shadows or barely noticeable settings, but overall I mean, I'm pretty happy when I can max stuff thumb.gif
wait, you do know the european debt clock is almost as high as the USA's, right...and that almost every major country is in trillions of debt?
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The only thing that will be salty is those early adopters of the 1080's tears when the 1080Ti drops at 30% faster and for $100 dollars more then what you paid for a mid-range chip lol. 1080's will then be properly priced at $499 where a cut down mid-range Pascal belongs. I'm looking forward to a pair of 1080Ti Lightnings this fall
so you think you are better than curent 1080 owners because you are going to spend ~$1600-1700 on a pair of 1080Tis some time in 2017 when they come out ?

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so you think you are better than curent 1080 owners because you are going to spend ~$1600-1700 on a pair of 1080Tis some time in 2017 when they come out ?

smile.gif

Not better just smarter. I guarantee the Ti will launch mid to late Q4 of this year. No way Nvidia will sit on big Pascal for more then 5-6 more month's considering its there first HBM usage gpu. For those who are building a fresh build and want the best available gpu and don't want to wait the 1070/1080 makes total sense. But for people like myself with last years flagships in their case no way I'm jumping into a 1080 right now.
 
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For those who are building a fresh build and want the best available gpu and don't want to wait the 1070/1080 makes total sense. But for people like myself with last years flagships in their case no way I'm jumping into a 1080 right now.
exactly

both are viable purchases



also personally I will get the 1180 as soon as it lands in 2018 so for me it makes no sense to get (or wait) for the 1080Ti in 2017 (1180 will only be a sidegrade to 1080Ti) .. it makes more sense to get 1070/1080 now and ride out ~2 years with it, then switch to 1180 .. instead of first waiting 6-9 months for 1080Ti and then waiting till 2019 for 1180Ti for the next real upgrade

Im also convinced 1080Ti wont come in 2016, but noone knows for sure
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Yes but a 1080ti will not be a fully open Titan. I expect the new Titan to be $1000 just like last year. The 1080Ti will not be over $800. Not when it was $650 last year. People are just getting price raped right now on the 1080. Simple as that. The fact that people are paying $700 right now for a mid-range gpu blows my mind.

I agree with you that 1080s are overpriced but they are still 30% faster than 980tis, whether it's a cut down Pascal or not.
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I agree with you that 1080s are overpriced but they are still 30% faster than 980tis, whether it's a cut down Pascal or not.
No sane (e.g. not a fanboy) can disagree with that. And that's the point, it's not a matter of performance, it's what you're paying for the card, given its position in the performance field. People are being overcharged up the yingyang (Even at MSRP) for a card that is objectively not a flagship card.
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I agree with you that 1080s are overpriced but they are still 30% faster than 980tis, whether it's a cut down Pascal or not.

For the very few that will keep both of these cards at stock clocks 25-30% is accurate. But for most of us this gap is much smaller because of how much headroom the 980Ti has and for how very little headroom the 1080 has. I've seen as little as 5-10% better performance out of the 1080 at 2000mhz and 980Ti at 1400mhz. I'd be curious to see where one of my gpu's(1530mhz) on Air stand against a 2000mhz 1080. I bet the gap is less then 5%.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Nvidia-Geforce-Grafikkarte-255598/Specials/Benchmark-Test-Video-1195464/2/
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For the very few that will keep both of these cards at stock clocks 25-30% is accurate. But for most of us this gap is much smaller because of how much headroom the 980Ti has and for how very little headroom the 1080 has. I've seen as little as 5-10% better performance out of the 1080 at 2000mhz and 980Ti at 1400mhz. I'd be curious to see where one of my gpu's(1530mhz) on Air stand against a 2000mhz 1080. I bet the gap is less then 5%.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Nvidia-Geforce-Grafikkarte-255598/Specials/Benchmark-Test-Video-1195464/2/

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_geforcegtx_1070_overclocking/

980Ti is still a beast. If buying now either a cheap 980Ti or a 1070 is the best bet. 1080 is just too much more money for little extra it offers.
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