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Hi there forum,

I'm new here, actually I have read this forum for some times now, but since I haven't build my own rig I was hesitated to join then. Now I have built my own rig. The rig's done but I haven't fully tested it yet. Waiting for my OS order arrive. My newly built rig is listed on my sig. This rig is my first after about 15 years. I'd been building rigs since I was 18 years old, it was around the Pentium II period, several years later I stopped building. Lots have changed but the basic is almost the same. So when I finally able to save for a rig, I thought then, well it's time to go for it, and after reading from forum to forum and a little site reviews I got my first build after 15 years of no rig building. This forum is one of my most researched source, that's why I consider to join in.
I hope I could get some opinions on my rig and any suggestion to improve it is highly appreciated.
Thanks and I hope I could somehow contribute to this forum, even if it's just a little bit.
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post #2 of 10
Hi, and welcome to the forum.
That my friend is a nice system you got there and I think you'll enjoy it in the years to come.
The only thing I'm missing is an SSD, do youself a favor and spend another 80$ or so on a 256BG SSD, you won't regrett it.

Cheers
TDEUS
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post #3 of 10
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Thanks for the warm welcome TDEUS. About the SSD, actually I've got that but I made a terrible mistake. I hadn't researched enough yet to know that my mobo doesn't support M.2 SATA SSD, which I happened to buy one, I was confused because the SSD didn't show up in BIOS. After looking up again, I found that the mobo only support M.2 PCI E SSD. Researched again, and I found that there is an adapter for that, so I try to buy that, but it seems that the adapter doesn't have enough popularity in my country. Now I'm buying it abroad and it takes forever to arrive. That's why I haven't listed it yet.
Thanks for the suggestion though, because I'm considering to buy a SATAIII SSD for now.
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Bummer,
which M.2 SSD did you buy then. I'm currious. Have you checked if there's maybe a Bios update that can fix the problem?

Are you planning on SLI this system in the future. Eventough a lot of people say one should rather get the top tier GPU (like 1080) rather than SLI'ing two 1070's. But I think it's a good plan to pick up a 2nd card 1 or 2 years afer release to refrech the system. I'm running 2x GTX770 in my system and they scale really nice (in most of the games wink.gif )

EDIT:
Some motherboards switch M.2 SATA mode if you do not plug anything into the SATA_0 and _1 port. That means, if you wanna use SATA mode on M.2, SATA_0 and SATA_1 will be disabled. So try pluging your HDD into SATA_2 and see it it does something. It's maybe worth a try.
Edited by TDEUS - 6/28/16 at 4:26am
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post #5 of 10
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I bought M.2 SATA SSD Samsung 850 EVO N5E500BW 500GB, I have updated the BIOS to the final version, and it is still not recognized, and about the switch to SATA I tried that too, even I didn't plug anything to the SATA ports only having the M.2 installed, still no luck. So I tried to look around again, finally I found an article in Tom's Hardware saying that my particular mobo (MSI Z170A SLI PLUS) won't switch to SATA no matter what, it'll only support the PCI E type M.2 SSD.
Quote from the website:
Quote:
MSI also leaves the PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 interface available, knowing that many gamers want to build their systems without drive cables. MSI doesn't spend any extra money making it switchable to SATA, however.
So never mind about that.
About SLI, quite an intriguing idea. But I'm still waiting till the masses tried it yet to see how it scales up on the Triple A games. For the next 6 months I'm considering to upgrade my monitor first. I got a lot of critics about using a 1080p 60Hz monitor for the GTX1070.blushsmiley.gif
But I don't know which monitor I should take, looking for a good 1440p 144Hz Monitor but a cheap one too.
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post #6 of 10
Ahh, that sucks
Mobo looks really nice and this M.2 thing is really something one can miss out on checking. And The SSD you bought, even-though it's not nvMe, a really nice and spacey (capacity) one. I hope you'll get it to work.

About the SLI, I think future games will even scale better because of DX12, but I wouldn't just yet go and buy a second 1070 since the one you got can do just fine by itself for the next 2 years to come.

Monitor: It's a difficult topic, since if you buy a expensive one you would kinda like to use it for at least 5 years right. I'm in the same boat. I think it's still to early for 4K and 1440p is nice but if you go for a monitor with high refresh rate and G-sync you'll be in the 750€+ ballpark. Something I could maybe recommend is the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG278Q. That one got a 144hz refresh rate and G-sync. But still not really cheap. If you loose the G-sync functionality you can save a lot of money though.
Some of my choices would be:
Asus MG279Q IPS panel
Asus MG278Q TN Panel
Acer XG270HU IPS Panel
Or, you go for the YOLO option Asus ROG Swift PG27AQ biggrin.gif
But you're probably won't be able to find anything under 500$, and or if you do, you might not be happy down the road :/

Let me know what you'll be goiong for when you're upgrading.
And yea, gaming HD on a 1070 isn't that bad if you have a 144hz monitor since your GPU's able to push out all those frames. But for esthetics, 1440p is neat wink.gif
Cheers
TDEUS
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post #7 of 10
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Exactly my thought. There are no cheap 1440p 144Hz monitor around, unless maybe a very used one. There are lots to choose from with different perks on each one, and I don't really care about G-Sync since it marked up the price too high and it won't improve the experience drastically or would it? I might be wrong but that's how I feel.
For the time being I'm sticking with my current one. Your suggestions are on my watchlist now, and sure I'll let you now which one I'm going to take.
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post #8 of 10
Welcome! I like your rig! Sorry about your problem with your m.2---Ebay it and recoup your money. The only hardware I would suggest is to add a set of quality speakers---sound card if you want. From there, I would safely and judiciously overclock your cpu and ram---p.s. heat is your enemy when overclocking. Nice pics!
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Welcome to Overclock Dandolf; I read through the user manual for your board and notice something regarding the M2 option, are you using the UEFI BIOS option or the legacy BIOS? the M2 function will not be recognized when using Legacy ROM. Also those PCI e to M2 adapters may not work as a boot drive a better choice might be an M2 to SATA III adapter or just sell the drive and get the one that will work with your board.

Me I am still rocking my X58 rig with SATA II SSD's, if it isn't broke don't fix it

(edit)
I continued to read through the user manual and found this on page 45, sounds like you have to enable RAID to get the M2 to work, I hope this helps

▶▶SATA Mode [AHCI Mode]
Sets the operation mode of the onboard SATA controller.
[AHCI Mode] Specify the AHCI mode for SATA storage devices. AHCI (Advanced
Host Controller Interface) offers some advanced features to enhance
the speed and performance of SATA storage device, such as Native
Command Queuing (NCQ) and hot-plugging.

[RAID Mode] Enables RAID function for SATA storage devices
.
▶▶M2_x-RST Pcie Storage Remapping [Disabled]
Enables or disables Intel Rapid Storage Technology for M.2 PCIe device. This item
will appear when SATA Mode is set to RAID Mode and Windows 8.1/10 WHQL
Support is enabled.
Edited by slickwilly - 6/29/16 at 7:28am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tosagun View Post

Welcome! I like your rig! Sorry about your problem with your m.2---Ebay it and recoup your money. The only hardware I would suggest is to add a set of quality speakers---sound card if you want. From there, I would safely and judiciously overclock your cpu and ram---p.s. heat is your enemy when overclocking. Nice pics!

Why thank you for your kind words, yes I'm thinking about selling it and getting a 950 Pro NVMe or SM951, as apparently this one is the supported M.2 by my Mobo according to MSI website. But considering the price tag, I might lower the space to 256GB. Speakers might come later, the BenQ RL2455HM has a built in speakers, not as good as stand alone speakers but quite OK. CPU, I'm going to overclock it, right now I'm still going with the safe route by using the OC genie the mobo has, while the RAM it already has high clock, by using XMP the clock has already reach 3200MHz (without XMP the RAM clocked down to 2133MHz), I don't really have the confidence to clock it higher. Yeah heat is the enemy of OC'ers, so I'm thinking of adding some fan to my case, might mod it a bit so I could attach intake fans to the sides of my case.
Thanks about the pics, I took it with a handphone.

Quote:
Originally Posted by slickwilly View Post

Welcome to Overclock Dandolf; I read through the user manual for your board and notice something regarding the M2 option, are you using the UEFI BIOS option or the legacy BIOS? the M2 function will not be recognized when using Legacy ROM. Also those PCI e to M2 adapters may not work as a boot drive a better choice might be an M2 to SATA III adapter or just sell the drive and get the one that will work with your board.

Me I am still rocking my X58 rig with SATA II SSD's, if it isn't broke don't fix it

(edit)
I continued to read through the user manual and found this on page 45, sounds like you have to enable RAID to get the M2 to work, I hope this helps

▶▶SATA Mode [AHCI Mode]
Sets the operation mode of the onboard SATA controller.
[AHCI Mode] Specify the AHCI mode for SATA storage devices. AHCI (Advanced
Host Controller Interface) offers some advanced features to enhance
the speed and performance of SATA storage device, such as Native
Command Queuing (NCQ) and hot-plugging.

[RAID Mode] Enables RAID function for SATA storage devices
.
▶▶M2_x-RST Pcie Storage Remapping [Disabled]
Enables or disables Intel Rapid Storage Technology for M.2 PCIe device. This item
will appear when SATA Mode is set to RAID Mode and Windows 8.1/10 WHQL
Support is enabled.

Thanks for the welcome. Well noted on the adapter, I don't know about that, luckily they are not too expensive, and yes I might as well sell it and take the NVMe or just the usual 2.5" SATA SSD. My BIOS is using the UEFI BIOS. About the RAID, I believe it'll only enables the Intel RST support for the M.2 PCIe, but believe me or not I've tried that too biggrin.gif and no M.2 storage showing up on my BIOS. So everything seems to tell me to just sell the M.2.

Oh yeah about sound card, it's not a very common topic to talk about, back in the days when I was building PC with no on-board whatever I kept an eye on every AIB including ethernet and sound card. So does it really relevant these days? I believe the on board Audio is capable enough to produce HD audio, will adding a PCIe Sound Card improve the quality of the audio?
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