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I'm in a bit of a conundrum and am hoping you all will provide some advice. I understand that I am asking for speculation, but a lot of you guys have been around a long time, and history tends to repeat itself....

I just built my new PC:
i7 6700k with a Kraken x61 cooler
Gigabyte Gaming 7 motherboard
16GB DDR4 3200 RAM
480GB SSD
2TB HDD
850watt PSU
etc...

AND...

An EVGA GTX 1080 SC with ACX 3.0 cooler - Note: This is NOT a FE card. This is an EVGA AIB with an open air cooler and is already [mildly] overclocked by EVGA.

My issue is solely with the GPU. I really didn't want to go with NVIDIA due to the following reasons:
#1 - Asynchronous compute and DX12 performance
#2 - slight price gouging on the new cards by NVIDIA (I absolutely don't blame them as they have a monopoly on the high end market)
#3 - rumors that NVIDIA drivers no longer improve performance in previous generation cards

I wanted to wait for Vega and was fully prepared to, but received an offer from a friend on my sig rig for $500. I believe that is a fair price and I will in no way get that much for it in 6-8 months when Vega launches. I've already tried ebay / craigslist / letgo / etc. to offload my current rig, and there is either zero interest, or very low offers.

So I needed to upgrade to take advantage of the $500.

I'm now wondering if I should have just picked up a cheap RX 480 which would have provided the same performance as my current rig and then sold that / bought Vega in a 6-8 months.

Why didn't I do that?

No idea...possibly the total lack of any kind of information on Vega performance targets?

...either way....I still can due to return policies.

So here are the options I see:
#1 - return GTX 1080 and get RX 480, sell it in 6-8 months and fully commit to either GTX 1080, GTX 1080Ti or Vega
#2 - Keep the GTX 1080, enjoy the performance increase and lack of crossfire issues and stop whining. Use it for 2-3 years in 1440p bliss and then sell it for $300 and buy a new card in 2-3 generations.
#3 - Keep the GTX 1080 and sell it when Vega comes out if Vega has performance improvements

I find #3 to be the most risky. If Vega releases at $500 and GTX 1080 performance, then I would have to sell my GTX 1080 for $450 ($270 loss) and then rebuy Vega for $500...essentially making it a $770 Vega card...

Any thoughts / advice?
Edited by seabiscuit68 - 6/27/16 at 8:28am
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Personally, I'd go for option 2 but be open to option 3 (but only if Vega really provides a noticeable bump in performance).
    
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1. Pascal is plenty fast for DX12.

2. They are not really price gouging, although the FE and lack of supply is more the problem. Not sure why you'd worry about a little bit of money you've bought bling like the GB Gaming 7 Kraken etc.

3. Nvidia cards are fairly optimised upon release, they can afford vast driver teams I assume. AMD is the opposite and it takes them time to get the most out of their cards. Both vendors are good for different people.

To answer your question just use the card and enjoy it.
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Nvidia is good, Nvidia is life.

All jokes aside, I'd opt for 2nd option. Enjoy your Nvidia until it becomes obsolete. I'm still using 780ti and never had any issues on running the latest games on ultra settings, which is fairly an old card right now.

As someone coming from 5870, you'll get used to it.

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Depends on what you play, really.

If 290X-esque performance is OK with you for a bit, then I'd dump your 1080 while it's hot, get a RX 480, 470, or 1070 and wait for a better deal.


I only say that because your 1080 is a FE card. It's grossly overpriced now and ships with a cheap, lousy cooler, you'd be better off buying a 3rd party 1080 with a decent cooler a month from now.

Now, the reference RX480 seems to have a trashy cooler too... But that's more tolerable for a stopgap card. Alternatively, you could pick up a used 290, Fury, 980, or 980 TI.
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Personally, I'd go for option 2 but be open to option 3 (but only if Vega really provides a noticeable bump in performance).

I suppose if the GTX 1080 meets my needs (gaming on high / ultra settings at 1440p @ 60 fps+ in
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Depends on what you play, really.

If 290X-esque performance is OK with you for a bit, then I'd dump your 1080 while it's hot, get a RX 480, 470, or 1070 and wait for a better deal.


I only say that because your 1080 is a FE card. It's grossly overpriced now and ships with a cheap, lousy cooler, you'd be better off buying a 3rd party 1080 with a decent cooler a month from now.

Now, the reference RX480 seems to have a trashy cooler too... But that's more tolerable for a stopgap card. Alternatively, you could pick up a used 290, Fury, 980, or 980 TI.

My GTX 1080 isn't a Founders Edition. It is the EVGA Superclocked with ACX 3.0 cooler. It is pretty great with temps and performance. It is already OC'd and most of the reviews show over 2000MHz very easily (I haven't played with OC'ing it further yet). I paid $679.99 for it, which is less than FE.
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Yea you could save yourself a few bucks right off the bat by returning the FE and just getting an AIB model.
A GTX 1080 would be a good fit for quite some time with your 1440p display.

At the end of the day it's entirely up to you with what you prefer from Red or Green and frankly, the full spectrum of information you'd need (or us) just isn't available until everything's on the table.
Also I'm not sure how much you spent on that PSU (or what model it is), but you won't need 850W even with a second card.
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Personally, I'd go for option 2 but be open to option 3 (but only if Vega really provides a noticeable bump in performance).

I suppose if the GTX 1080 meets my needs (gaming on high / ultra settings at 1440p @ 60 fps+ in
Quote:
Originally Posted by brucethemoose View Post

Depends on what you play, really.

If 290X-esque performance is OK with you for a bit, then I'd dump your 1080 while it's hot, get a RX 480, 470, or 1070 and wait for a better deal.


I only say that because your 1080 is a FE card. It's grossly overpriced now and ships with a cheap, lousy cooler, you'd be better off buying a 3rd party 1080 with a decent cooler a month from now.

Now, the reference RX480 seems to have a trashy cooler too... But that's more tolerable for a stopgap card. Alternatively, you could pick up a used 290, Fury, 980, or 980 TI.

My GTX 1080 isn't a Founders Edition. It is the EVGA Superclocked with ACX 3.0 cooler. It is pretty great with temps and performance. It is already OC'd and most of the reviews show over 2000MHz very easily (I haven't played with OC'ing it further yet). I paid $679.99 for it, which is less than FE.

Ah, my bad, I'm too lazy to read the whole thread on mobile tongue.gif

I'd keep it and not think about it until Vega drops if I were you.
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I recommend option 1. The RX 480 will still do a good job.
Option 2 is an illusion: The GTX 780 Ti is 3 years old. Good luck getting anything more than 200 for that card now.
Option 3 seems like a high risk, as in: AMD is going to kick Nvidia is the nuts with their current pricing. I expect the 1080 to drop to 450-500 new, if not less.

That said, don't return the 1080: flip it on Ebay for a profit.

Don't give in to nGreedia's scam. It only makes it worse. The only reason they can use this bad business practices is because people still buy their cards.
   
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I recommend option 1. The RX 480 will still do a good job.
Option 2 is an illusion: The GTX 780 Ti is 3 years old. Good luck getting anything more than 200 for that card now.
Option 3 seems like a high risk, as in: AMD is going to kick Nvidia is the nuts with their current pricing. I expect the 1080 to drop to 450-500 new, if not less.

That said, don't return the 1080: flip it on Ebay for a profit.

Don't give in to nGreedia's scam. It only makes it worse. The only reason they can use this bad business practices is because people still buy their cards.

eBay =/= profit

After tax, this was about $730. I would need to sell it for $832 just to break even (not including shipping) considering the 10% fees ebay charges and the 3-4% paypal charges. Ebay is horrible...you want to talk about greed...
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