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Some gamers using our latest Pascal based GPUs connected to high refresh rate monitor have reported that the highest refresh rates or resolutions are not available when connected using DVI. This behavior is due to limited bandwidth available on the DVI cables. NVIDIA recommends that these high performance monitors be connected using DP instead of DVI. DP natively has much higher performance and will support the full capabilities of modern monitors.

In addition, NVIDIA is updating our driver to attempt to run at higher clocks on older DVI cables and enable all monitor modes. However, this high clock behavior is beyond the cable specification and depending on cable and monitor quality, may be unstable or non-functional.

lame cop-out indeed.
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Some gamers using our latest Pascal based GPUs connected to high refresh rate monitor have reported that the highest refresh rates or resolutions are not available when connected using DVI. This behavior is due to limited bandwidth available on the DVI cables. NVIDIA recommends that these high performance monitors be connected using DP instead of DVI. DP natively has much higher performance and will support the full capabilities of modern monitors.

In addition, NVIDIA is updating our driver to attempt to run at higher clocks on older DVI cables and enable all monitor modes. However, this high clock behavior is beyond the cable specification and depending on cable and monitor quality, may be unstable or non-functional.

TL:DR-Buy a flashy new G-sync panel
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Some gamers using our latest Pascal based GPUs connected to high refresh rate monitor have reported that the highest refresh rates or resolutions are not available when connected using DVI. This behavior is due to limited bandwidth available on the DVI cables. NVIDIA recommends that these high performance monitors be connected using DP instead of DVI. DP natively has much higher performance and will support the full capabilities of modern monitors.

In addition, NVIDIA is updating our driver to attempt to run at higher clocks on older DVI cables and enable all monitor modes. However, this high clock behavior is beyond the cable specification and depending on cable and monitor quality, may be unstable or non-functional.

So something even my eight year old 9800GTX+ can do suddenly is out of spec because of DVI?

 

From the 970s 3.5+0.5GB VRAM to this :doh:

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Originally Posted by ManuelG_at_NVIDIA View Post

Some gamers using our latest Pascal based GPUs connected to high refresh rate monitor have reported that the highest refresh rates or resolutions are not available when connected using DVI. This behavior is due to limited bandwidth available on the DVI cables. NVIDIA recommends that these high performance monitors be connected using DP instead of DVI. DP natively has much higher performance and will support the full capabilities of modern monitors.

In addition, NVIDIA is updating our driver to attempt to run at higher clocks on older DVI cables and enable all monitor modes. However, this high clock behavior is beyond the cable specification and depending on cable and monitor quality, may be unstable or non-functional.
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That doesn't even make any sense, they DO work with Pascal, they just don't work on BOOT, as long as you are already booted into Windows, you can then change your refresh rate to however high your monitor/cable will allow

The bold part does sound like it is being addressed even though they do not recommend it. I have one Overlord X270OC left so I do hope and expect 1440p@110Hz to still work on the next gen of Nvidia GPUs, after all my Titan and 980Ti were both fine, it is sad to have a port get worse on a newer version. I do think DVI is on its way out (and should have been a while ago), I would not buy a DVI only display now, but my X270OC is still a pretty nice monitor that should be running 100Hz+. frown.gif

However, it is true that 100+ Hz might not work on DVI, I have had very high quality cables artifact or flicker at that refresh rate, though many normal and most high quality cables do work fine. 115+ Hz gets harder again, with many cables not working.
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Some gamers using our latest Pascal based GPUs connected to high refresh rate monitor have reported that the highest refresh rates or resolutions are not available when connected using DVI. This behavior is due to limited bandwidth available on the DVI cables. NVIDIA recommends that these high performance monitors be connected using DP instead of DVI. DP natively has much higher performance and will support the full capabilities of modern monitors.

In addition, NVIDIA is updating our driver to attempt to run at higher clocks on older DVI cables and enable all monitor modes. However, this high clock behavior is beyond the cable specification and depending on cable and monitor quality, may be unstable or non-functional.
Any word on a fix for DPC latency issues?

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/941579/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-high-dpc-latency-and-stuttering/
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Some gamers using our latest Pascal based GPUs connected to high refresh rate monitor have reported that the highest refresh rates or resolutions are not available when connected using DVI. This behavior is due to limited bandwidth available on the DVI cables. NVIDIA recommends that these high performance monitors be connected using DP instead of DVI. DP natively has much higher performance and will support the full capabilities of modern monitors.

In addition, NVIDIA is updating our driver to attempt to run at higher clocks on older DVI cables and enable all monitor modes. However, this high clock behavior is beyond the cable specification and depending on cable and monitor quality, may be unstable or non-functional.

Lame cop-out indeed.

The funny thing is that I can run my Qnix which requires Dual link DVI at 96-110Hz on my old 8800GTS G92 that I have had since 2008 with no issues and the company that made it does not exist anymore. I hope this can be fixed for some of use that are still rocking some solid older monitors. I was thinking about buying a 1070 for the extra V-RAM to replace my regular 980 but I might pick up a used 980 and sit for another generation or 2 or see what AMD is offering.

it seems that Nvidia's quality is dropping. it's like the 970GTX thing all over again for me which still left a nasty taste in my mouth over 1 year after the fact but lucky for me EVGA had my back with their step up program and was able to get my 980. Also they went well above and beyond for people that that had their step up time expired, get their 980 because they wanted a full 4GB of ram.
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it seems that Nvidia's quality is dropping. it's like the 970GTX thing all over again for me which still left a nasty taste in my mouth over 1 year after the fact but lucky for me EVGA had my back with their step up program and was able to get my 980. Also they went well above and beyond for people that that had their step up time expired, get their 980 because they wanted a full 4GB of ram.

I'm not one to stand up for Nvidia's business practices but isn't that a bit extreme?

How do you go from blatantly lying about Vram specs to DVI compatibility issue as being anywhere near the same level?
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i always though DVI had a limit of 75hz at 1440p and 30hz 4k
i remember increasing the frequency on my old screen and it had so much jitter
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Originally Posted by ManuelG_at_NVIDIA View Post

Some gamers using our latest Pascal based GPUs connected to high refresh rate monitor have reported that the highest refresh rates or resolutions are not available when connected using DVI. This behavior is due to limited bandwidth available on the DVI cables. NVIDIA recommends that these high performance monitors be connected using DP instead of DVI. DP natively has much higher performance and will support the full capabilities of modern monitors.

In addition, NVIDIA is updating our driver to attempt to run at higher clocks on older DVI cables and enable all monitor modes. However, this high clock behavior is beyond the cable specification and depending on cable and monitor quality, may be unstable or non-functional.


You might want to tell your bosses at Nvidia that you're dealing with actual enthusiasts here that know the specs of the hardware better than you guys do.


Every GPU in the last 3 generations has run this spec and it had nothing to do with the cable or DVI connector. This is on your end.


Also, when you get the chance you might bump it up the chain (which I already have to two people that are friends of mine at your company) that paper launching into a false shortage and then allowing scalpers to bot buy products without at the very least discouraging that behavior is in bad taste. The other thing is there are some claims that the 1080 is the best selling GPU of all time. I'd like to see order numbers backing that up because that's pretty hard to believe.
 
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