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post #31 of 100
I'm surprised it took this long tbh LOL!

Good for 'em...I like Win10 personally, but the pushy upgrades were getting out of control.
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Waste of time for MS, that's all. Secondly, she runs her travel agency off of one computer? She has zero back up for it? What type of magical software was on that machine that she couldn't use another for? Never even heard of Windows 10? Lies, lies everywhere. But hey, we can sue for hot coffee in this country so why not.

The fact that you have no idea why that old lady was awarded the compensation she was shows how much you value your corporate overlords over your own rights.

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post #33 of 100
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MS dropped the appeal because $10K is barely a speck of dust in the bucket, and it would've cost them more to pay their legal team to appeal.

But yes it does set a nice precedence, and I hope they get hit with a barrage of class action suits.
I'm certain that the terms of the settlement make it clear that Microsoft admits no wrongdoing, meaning that the settlement can't be used as a legal precedent at all. They gave her $10,000 to go away.
     
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post #34 of 100
Funny, the exact same thing happened to my computer when I came home from work one night and noticed that it was upgrading to Windows 10 all on its own. Yet somehow my computer didn't turn into a potato all of the sudden. Everything, you know, just kind of worked. My guess is that her story is complete BS and she really just saw this as an opportunity to get some money out of Microsoft.
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Guess the lady in question never replied YES to the EULA or MS would have had her over a barrel. Or did it eat her computer before the EULA came up?

If she replied 'YES' to the EULA and then it ate her computer, then the court just over ruled the protection that MS expected the EULA would have afforded them. Now this would be seismic.

Expect a EULA change if the latter is the case. I have read that the latest EULA is what is in effect even if you said YES, I agree' to a previous one when you accepted the W10 upgrade.

Courts around the world already knowledge that EULA does not mean law, and it means nothing.
The wording of EULAs today are so vague, that MS can basically block you out of your MS if you sneeze while being on the phone with their customer support, and the guy on the other end feels offended.

Besides, it is common knowledge that people aren't reading 100 pages of non-law-undertanding-language and just hit "accept. Also when a company change their EULA, in the middle of using the product after they changed it, without allowing you to revert those changes, is a complete unfair practice which makes having to accept EULA in order to keep using the product, a one-sided unfair contract, which has a lot of limits in may courts around the world.

So TLDR: Replaying Yes to EULA means absolutely nothing. Also, she was not even asked to say "yes I want to install a different OS that what I have now". Updates and a brand new OS is not the same thing, and the windows 7 or 8 EULA does not give MS an all out decision of what to do with your computer whenever they want and whatever they want.
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Funny, the exact same thing happened to my computer when I came home from work one night and noticed that it was upgrading to Windows 10 all on its own. Yet somehow my computer didn't turn into a potato all of the sudden. Everything, you know, just kind of worked. My guess is that her story is complete BS and she really just saw this as an opportunity to get some money out of Microsoft.

Maybe she tried to stop in the middle because it was closing her programs all of a sudden, and didn't know what to do or what was going on, and that caused a lot of problems in her computer.

I like how you attack the woman without even knowing a single thing about what was going on. I find it funny really. Since she won, and MS decided not to appeal, it means they acknowledge that they did something wrong.
BTW, those 10K can buy a lot of titans or plenty of 1080.
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Downside is that when the free upgrade period ends, if I have to reinstall i'll be back on win7

It doesn't work that way. Under updates etc, there is a page/tab that shows validation. Your HW keys are validated on MS end, so you can use the W10 Media Creation Tool at any time to create a fresh install USB (that includes all currents updates) that will work on any W10 validated computer.

I recently upgraded, then freshly reinstalled 4 PC/laptops that had W7 at my in-laws place, I can attest to using the same USB stick for all of them (that I made from my own Laptop) and wiped the W7 machines immediately after the W10 install was completed and showed fully validated in the settings.
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It doesn't work that way. Under updates etc, there is a page/tab that shows validation. Your HW keys are validated on MS end, so you can use the W10 Media Creation Tool at any time to create a fresh install USB (that includes all currents updates) that will work on any W10 validated computer.

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That reminds me, I still have an older Win7 PC that I need to upgrade before the deadline. It's over at my in-laws. Perhaps it has already upgraded itself? cheers.gif
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MS dropped the appeal because $10K is barely a speck of dust in the bucket, and it would've cost them more to pay their legal team to appeal.

But yes it does set a nice precedence, and I hope they get hit with a barrage of class action suits.
I'm certain that the terms of the settlement make it clear that Microsoft admits no wrongdoing, meaning that the settlement can't be used as a legal precedent at all. They gave her $10,000 to go away.

it NOT a settlement; she won a JUDGEMENT.
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Two pertinent facts many of you are overlooking is the failed, unwanted update occurred shortly after Win 10 was released last summer and MS has admitted to no guilt with the settlement.
     
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