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I have a feeling that in a year or two many people who refused windows 10 are going to be regretting it.

I'm just glad that I got all of my machines upgraded in time.
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I have a feeling that in a year or two many people who refused windows 10 are going to be regretting it.

I'm just glad that I got all of my machines upgraded in time.

I already regret not installing that beta stage spyware so much I'm going to get an XBox Spy with a Kinect and an Amazon Spy Post.

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I already regret not installing that beta stage spyware so much I'm going to get an XBox Spy with a Kinect and an Amazon Spy Post.

Brave words now. Let's see what you say in 2018 when all major releases are DX12...
post #74 of 100
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I have a feeling that in a year or two many people who refused windows 10 are going to be regretting it.

I'm just glad that I got all of my machines upgraded in time.

I'll update when I get skylake or whatever is out at that time that HWBot doesn't throw a condition fit over due to rtc clock issues,but since I'm on Haswell atm upgrading means I can't use my gaming rig for benching... So I stay with what I have ^_^

Either way I'd be buying a higher end version so I have a lot more control over what happens, and more importantly when.
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I think the main point is that those who take advantage of the free upgrade will never have to pay for another Windows again. AFAIK anyway...
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I think the main point is that those who take advantage of the free upgrade will never have to pay for another Windows again. AFAIK anyway...

I've got a few years to become more familiar with Linux until the updates to 7 end. For games I'll move to the playstation.
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I think the main point is that those who take advantage of the free upgrade will never have to pay for another Windows again. AFAIK anyway...

Nothing's free in this world... I don't know why I'm bothering to repeat this since it's obvious by this point that most people are perfectly content to sell themselves.
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I already regret not installing that beta stage spyware so much I'm going to get an XBox Spy with a Kinect and an Amazon Spy Post.

Don't worry, I'm sure the Windows 8.1 build you are using is 100% spyware free - I mean you know all the backdoors and each service running inside and out right?
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I've got a few years to become more familiar with Linux until the updates to 7 end. For games I'll move to the playstation.

This one always gets me. Win2000 came out, "I'm going to linux"..... XP came out, "I'm going to linux"... Vista came out, "I'm going to linux".... Win 7 came out, "I'm going to linux"... Win 8/8.1 came out, "I'm going to linux"... Win 10 comes out,... I swear I'm going to learn linux, I swear!

Every. Single. Release.
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Nothing's free in this world... I don't know why I'm bothering to repeat this since it's obvious by this point that most people are perfectly content to sell themselves.

You don't use google at all than I take it? Nor do you have a smart phone I'd image?

I'm not saying I agree nor like the way technology (has predictably) gone. What I am sick of is people acting as Windows 10 is the devil and that none of their other often unfortunately more personal devices such as their phone are basically carry along tracking devices, with non removable cameras and microphones!
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You are framing it all wrong. People all over the world work with devices that they do not fully understand. Even you. It's a matter of trust between the user and the provider / maker of the device. The trust that Microsoft is eroding with every malware tactic that they employ to try to get their way.

Call me when you can say that you fully understand how the x86 CPU in your computer is working. You have some high-level notions, that's all. The same way you have no idea what kind of trickery goes on in a GPU driver to make a DX 11 game work well with two different supported GPU architectures.

The same thing with an OS. People know, for 20 years now, ever since Windows is a consumer OS (Windows 95), that Microsoft has never used the Windows Update mechanism to deliver, let alone automatically install a new version of Windows, let alone one which isn't the immediate successor (Windows 7 -> Windows 10). It isn't only historical knowledge because it never happened, it's also because it isn't supposed to.

Are you telling me that people are supposed to throw away that common sense and keep up with the news about Microsoft's marketshare decisions at every moment and know why their perfectly adequate for daily usage 2008 era Core 2 Duo / Quad with Windows Vista is having the normal updates applied as usual, whereas the husband / wife / son / daughter's computer from 2009 is having Windows 7 moved to Windows 10 automatically?

That Microsoft decided to push specific updates to Windows Update so that it could do something that it was never originally intended to do?

Of course, and I see what you are getting at. There is just a very big difference between knowing how to build and troubleshoot a computer vs building an actual processor. Much like there is a difference between changing oil & tires and rebuilding a motor part by part. I'm more perplexed that she had no alternative, no back up, no nothing. Hence my power supply failure comparison comment.
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Of course, and I see what you are getting at. There is just a very big difference between knowing how to build and troubleshoot a computer vs building an actual processor. Much like there is a difference between changing oil & tires and rebuilding a motor part by part. I'm more perplexed that she had no alternative, no back up, no nothing. Hence my power supply failure comparison comment.


What you fail to acknowledge is that the trust link between Microsoft and its users is broken when they resort to tactics like these. As I said in a previous post, if she had a backup, being a travel agent, it would have to be connected to the Internet to have the same functionality as the main one, so the chances are she'd end up in the same situation, with the backup computer also upgraded to Windows 10 and she'd be having the same problems, albeit with two systems instead of just one. The solution is for Microsoft to not abuse its position, that's all.
 
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This one always gets me. Win2000 came out, "I'm going to linux"..... XP came out, "I'm going to linux"... Vista came out, "I'm going to linux".... Win 7 came out, "I'm going to linux"... Win 8/8.1 came out, "I'm going to linux"... Win 10 comes out,... I swear I'm going to learn linux, I swear!

Every. Single. Release.

Started with DOS, played around with Slackware off and on, moved to Win 3.1. skipped Windows for Workgroups, moved to OS/2 and OS/2 + Windows. moved to Win2K Pro, when Vista came out, "I'm satisfied with 2K". When XP SP1 was released, I moved from 2K to XP. When Win7 SP1 came out, I moved from XP. When Win 8/8.1 came out, "I'm satisfied with Win7". When Win 10 came out, I tried it it 3 different times. It offered nothing I needed, removed some features (media center), and took more control away from the user.So I'm satisfied with Win7 right now and since it appears MS is going in a different direction than me, I'm getting off the bus.
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