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Originally Posted by sugarhell View Post

The 970 is typical average gaming power consumption around 150-160 watt. The custom ones are a bit higher.

The polaris 10 is max 150 watt TDP.
AIB cards will likely have higher TDPs by including another 6 (8) pin PCI-e connector.
post #172 of 712
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Because it shows how slow AMD's DX11 driver performance is?

Please explain why it's a bad benchmark.

Old engine designed for the PS360. Nothing particularly advanced about the rendering either.
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Because it shows how slow AMD's DX11 driver performance is?

Please explain why it's a bad benchmark.

No other games use the engine

It's a game from 2015

DX12 stuff , the new doom , and an UE4 game would be best
post #174 of 712
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Originally Posted by blue1512 View Post

Who said 480 is a 150W card, from the leaks with a buggy GPUz??rolleyes.gif
It pulls 150W measured with kill-a-watt when the power limit is set to +50%. You do the math yourself.
The only problem I got so far is the scorching VRM and the junk heatsink.

I hope you are joking right?
It was said so on AMD's introduction for the 480 just a few weeks ago. AMD claimed that the 480 is a 150 TDP card, no leaks, or GPUz.
So get with the times, stop living in 2015, or make stuff up like you have a clue and a half.
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When the 5xxx series came out, AMD made a huge deal out of tessellation. They were the first to support it, their marketing was huge about tessellation.
Developers made games with that in mind which were supposed to favour AMD (which was also the reason why I bought 5870s back then).

The problem was that the moment nvidia brought out the 4xx series, AMD suddenly declared how tessellation is bad, wrong, should be used minimally. Imagine that...
And those claims about invisible geometry and stuff, those were also on games which were developed with AMD tessellation in mind, and not nvidia (and they sprang up every release since 2009 until lately, because AMD's sell point now is only DX12 and they gave up on DX11 completely).

Well there are definitely two era's of DX11 games.

I can't help to think that nVidia helped DX11 adoption by helping devs glue on DX11 to console ports, which were usually DX9 PS360 affairs.
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I dont disagree, which is why I think getting Pascal for the 2016-2018 period which balances very good raw power (excellent perf/mm2 .. its 65% faster than 980 on a 314mm2 die) with a temporary stop-gap for async (pre-emption) is very viable .. it will crush DX11 and "early" DX12 games and do "ok" in some async heavier games (brute force helps there too)

and in 2018 after Win7/8 and DX11 should be finally history and we are swimming in new fully DX12 engines - Volta is all ready thumb.gif

pacing is important, theres no point rushing in too early redface.gif

You'll tell yourself anything to stay on the nvidia upgrade scam cycle redface.gif

You've never owned an AMD card in your life, and you never will.
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TBH, even if its 28nm vs 14nm, the 970 is a 150-160w power card, the 480 is said to be a 150w card.

I thought the average gaming power draw was around 110W for the 480?

Plus the 970 Zotac in this thread probably uses more like 170W+

edit - Maybe that was the 110W TDP of the 470 I'm confusing myself with..............
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I hope you are joking right?
It was said so on AMD's introduction for the 480 just a few weeks ago. AMD claimed that the 480 is a 150 TDP card, no leaks, or GPUz.
So get with the times, stop living in 2015, or make stuff up like you have a clue and a half.
LOL at you. TDP is not the same as effective power consumption. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by ebduncan View Post

glad the world can finally see the turd the RX-480 is.

performance per dollar is fine. The bigger problem comes from the RX-480 150 watt TDP, while the GTX 1070 has a tdp of 150 watts. AMD is still behind on performance per watt. Ya, they made big improvements, but it wasn't enough.
Uh oh all critical about TDP and has a FX 8320 at 5 GHz and a R9 290 lol
Edited by GoLDii3 - 6/28/16 at 5:23am
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glad the world can finally see the turd the RX-480 is.

performance per dollar is fine. The bigger problem comes from the RX-480 150 watt TDP, while the GTX 1070 has a tdp of 150 watts. AMD is still behind on performance per watt. Ya, they made big improvements, but it wasn't enough.
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TBH, even if its 28nm vs 14nm, the 970 is a 150-160w power card, the 480 is said to be a 150w card, so overall the difference between them isn't going to be a major one, since nvidia are a much better performance/watt than AMD, so I never expected a low watt card from them to really gives big performance.
Just for comparison, the 1070 is a 160w card which performs at the 980 ti level.
Nvidia have been a step up over AMD in that regard for several years now.

Also don't forget that for awhile now the only performance mark we had was a CFX of 480s vs the 1080 on AOTS at 1080p. And since that game is seriously favouring AMD, it means that almost on every other game (especially DX11), 480s CFX will perform only close or less than a single 1080, which means 970 performance only.

I'm trying to work out who actually cares about power consumption at this level . The 480 will outperform the 970 with less wattage so who cares what gen the cards are from as there is still improvement there. Will it be as efficient as Pascal no - does that matter really - no. For interests sake TPU stated that vega would improve the performance per watt compared to polaris , so AMD is still moving in the right direction.

Its an NV advantage if you can call it that. I'd rather have async support eg proper dx12 supported than bleeding edge power consumption.
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You've never owned an AMD card in your life, and you never will.
Ive owned both 4850 & 4870 and I loved them redface.gif

AMD hasnt come close to those for a while now
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