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I agree now however I remember this same argument back with the gtx 580, it ran out of power before it ran out of vram. I think it's the case most the time the people that bought the 380/390s/970s with 8gb vram for 1080p will run out of power before ever needing to go above 4gb vram. Most likely the same with this card, it being an entry level card with high end vram it will run out of power first. People will be upgrading the 480 for the lack of fps/graphical power before they do for the vram even the 4gb versions.

It was actually the reason I bought the 6970 over the 580 that gen for the vram then had to upgrade not to long after for more performance(and for noise made the mistake of getting a reference cooler, sounded like a jet), and I never needed anywhere near 2gb vram back then nevermind 3. That's when I learned for the most part vram is just a marketing tool to a certain extent obviously, one that amd usually employ to counter nvidias better performance off the bat.

I know dual solutions are a different story but it's such a niche market I don't really consider it, besides if someones budget was $400ish I would think most would go for a 1070 over two 480's i.e the best single solution you can afford at the time.

1060 will be around 980 performance, 970 minimum. And neither card has issues maxing out the games I mentioned above at 1080p. If 3GB is already showing insufficiency in 2016, how do you expect such a card to cope with future games?

Times are different now since PC games are treated as ports from "next gen consoles" which have >4GB pooled memory.
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1060 will be around 980 performance, 970 minimum. And neither card has issues maxing out the games I mentioned above at 1080p. If 3GB is already showing insufficiency in 2016, how do you expect such a card to cope with future games?

Times are different now since PC games are treated as ports from "next gen consoles" which have >4GB pooled memory.

I was not really talking about the 970, I dont give a stuff about the 970 lol it sucks was just talking about vram requirements/recommendations being way overblown.
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I'm explaining a why 970/980 level card with just 3GB vram is plain ridiculous in 2016, especially when you have games that already go over that amount at 1080p, to say nothing of future games. And I'm also not the only one who thinks such a card would be pointless.
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One thing people forget is, its the texture quality that usually uses most of the vram, and it doesn't really impact performance as other gfx features do. so even if the gpu isn't that powerful. more vram allows you maximum texture quality with others setting set to medium etc. so even if gpu doesn't have enough horsepower, better get a gpu with more vram if that option is available.
texture quality is the last thing you want to lower without making game look like a console crap.
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Is it just me or does the reflection on the "1060" look like CG?
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Is it just me or does the reflection on the "1060" look like CG?

I thought the picture looked a little odd when I first saw it.
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It was actually the reason I bought the 6970 over the 580 that gen for the vram then had to upgrade not to long after for more performance(and for noise made the mistake of getting a reference cooler, sounded like a jet), and I never needed anywhere near 2gb vram back then nevermind 3. That's when I learned for the most part vram is just a marketing tool to a certain extent obviously, one that amd usually employ to counter nvidias better performance off the bat.

Yes and no, 7900 series AMD cards are lucky they were equipped with 3GB vram and they have the power to utilize it.

For example Forza 6 Apex, the 7900 series can play this on high at very good frames, whilst the 2GB 770 has some problems and a warning comes up saying 'not enough system memory'

4GB should be enough for 1080p on these cards, I'm not going to take the risk though everyone said 2GB was enough years ago and it's just not.

Plus the 8GB will have a higher resale value no doubt. On the topic of the 1060, 3GB is just not worthy unless you play old DX9/DX11 games and that's it (which many do)
Edited by Waitng4realGPU - 6/30/16 at 8:08pm
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One thing people forget is, its the texture quality that usually uses most of the vram, and it doesn't really impact performance as other gfx features do. so even if the gpu isn't that powerful. more vram allows you maximum texture quality with others setting set to medium etc. so even if gpu doesn't have enough horsepower, better get a gpu with more vram if that option is available.
texture quality is the last thing you want to lower without making game look like a console crap.

Thank you.. finally someone gets it. You don't need to max settings everywhere to take advantage of more vram. I will never, ever, ever, lower texture quality nor AF filtering. These barely hit cards for performance and make one of if not the most visual difference. The GTX580 is still a very reasonable card powerwise, and those with a 3gb card are still able to game fine at them. Sure, most of the settings are at medium for most games now, but textures can still be set to ultra at 1080p for most games. The 1.5gb cards are limited by vram for the majority of modern games.
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Thank you.. finally someone gets it. You don't need to max settings everywhere to take advantage of more vram. I will never, ever, ever, lower texture quality nor AF filtering. These barely hit cards for performance and make one of if not the most visual difference. The GTX580 is still a very reasonable card powerwise, and those with a 3gb card are still able to game fine at them. Sure, most of the settings are at medium for most games now, but textures can still be set to ultra at 1080p for most games. The 1.5gb cards are limited by vram for the majority of modern games.

It is interesting to think of the Titan X in that position, good textures due to the 12GB of RAM with everything else at medium because it is two generations behind. smile.gif

That does seem to be the way we are going, true 4K textures get very large even with compression. I would definitely recommend budget constrained individuals get the 6GB 1060 or the 8GB 480, but in all honesty I am actually the type that would get top end Vega or GP102, whichever is faster. So my advice tends to stretch budgets. redface.gif
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Is it just me or does the reflection on the "1060" look like CG?

Could be.

I saw somewhere a guy analyzing the reflexions/ angles/ shadows on the card: he thinks the picture is a fake.

6 days to wait.


My guess (and only a guess) is that maybe the 6GB version would be a Ti version.
I am not sure that the difference in embedded memory is enough to justify the 2 versions (codenames) of the GPU: GP 106-300 and GP 106-400.

I am trying to figure out what the 2nd number (300/ 400) means for Nvidia.
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I agree now however I remember this same argument back with the gtx 580, it ran out of power before it ran out of vram. I think it's the case most the time the people that bought the 380/390s/970s with 8gb vram for 1080p will run out of power before ever needing to go above 4gb vram. Most likely the same with this card, it being an entry level card with high end vram it will run out of power first. People will be upgrading the 480 for the lack of fps/graphical power before they do for the vram even the 4gb versions.

It was actually the reason I bought the 6970 over the 580 that gen for the vram then had to upgrade not to long after for more performance(and for noise made the mistake of getting a reference cooler, sounded like a jet), and I never needed anywhere near 2gb vram back then nevermind 3. That's when I learned for the most part vram is just a marketing tool to a certain extent obviously, one that amd usually employ to counter nvidias better performance off the bat.

I know dual solutions are a different story but it's such a niche market I don't really consider it, besides if someones budget was $400ish I would think most would go for a 1070 over two 480's i.e the best single solution you can afford at the time.

So you don't remember the 2-4gb GT 430's and 440's?

RAM has always been a marketing tool for both parties. NV just ends up using odd bus sizes more often, and at the time they didn't want to make the jump to 3gb of VRAM for GTX 480/580.
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